Template talk:Mycomorphbox
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Edible after cooking icon?
[edit]'Edible when cooked' as an icon? or is it too many to choose from? Ruminating before adding... cheers Cas Liber 10:23, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
- update - after four and a half years, there are more folks to discuss this now, so is this something worth considering. I recall some books having a stylised mushroom with parentheses around it. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:27, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- I would go for a generic "limited edibility" or "edible under conditions" icon, and I would design it as a variation of the edibility icon - e.g. the edibility icon with an added exclamation mark. Then I would name the conditions on a standardised place - i.e.: easy to locate for readers - in the article. That way it doesn't get much more complex for the viewer/reader and we can use it for all those mushrooms that need to be treated in some way or don't go well together with alcohol aso..--Natr (talk) 17:26, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- support - A decade later, I still think an "edible when cooked" parameter should apply to species like Morels and Amanita Muscaria#Culinary_use --Sokuseno (talk) 19:11, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Species Identification
[edit]Is it possible to aggregate the information from the templates into a table? In other words, can Wikipedia generate a list all the species and their features? This would be useful for identifying species if their name is not known. emok (talk) 18:13, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
- To answer my own question, it looks like this sort of query is within the scope of the Wikidata project but is not possible yet. As the project develops it should be possible to create the sort of table I am looking for. In the meantime, I have requested for the Properties in this infobox to be added to Wikidata. emok (talk) 00:53, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- How does it work right now? I see that for a lot of existing articles with this template there are corresponding properties in wikidata (like here). I've added the template to Cerioporus leptocephalus and I would like those properties to be added to wikidata as well. Do I need to do it manually? MightiestRaccoon (talk) 05:06, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Change link for "not recommended" category
[edit]It currently links to here, a section of the mushroom hunting page which no longer exists. The current equivalent section is Mushroom_hunting#Commonly_misidentified/confused_mushrooms so the link should go there. I'm not sure where to go to change that, but maybe somebody who knows can fix it. Beggarsbanquet (talk) 05:39, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Pretty easy with control+F, with the only part that made it somewhat tricky being that spaces were used instead of underscores (which is a style thing; mediawiki treats them both the same if I recall correctly). --Pokechu22 (talk) 05:43, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
White spores seems to be transparent
[edit]Seems like the white spore colour is not white, but transparent when looking at a page for a mushroom with white spores (did not appear transparent on the example on the teplate page itself though). 2003:E4:EF09:B400:7131:6568:A52B:1E9E (talk) 22:20, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
how to add a source?
[edit]im trying to add [citation needed] to the edibility of Xerocomus subtomentosus but cant without messing up the box Rovi9805 (talk) 17:02, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Why? A source is provided in the article's prose. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:42, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- i just think its important to clearly cite the edibility if we're going to claim it's edible Rovi9805 (talk) 13:40, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- The article does provide a citation for the edibility, so adding a cn template would be simply wrong. See MOS:INFOBOXREF. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:48, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- i just think its important to clearly cite the edibility if we're going to claim it's edible Rovi9805 (talk) 13:40, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
'Color' field
[edit]Stropharia coronilla was the only remaining page transcluding the Mycomorphbox "color" field. (I know this after recently running a Mycota [1] tool I wrote.)
I removed the field from that page's template, and wrote an (incorrect) edit message that the field is not supported. But now that there are no transclusions for that field... should it even be supported? Is there still a use case for an alternative "background color for headings"? Reinderientalk/contribs 00:05, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Reinderien:, I suspect there isn't really a use case for the parameter/field. I'm not sure what you're aiming for with the tool you wrote. There is a report updated on a monthly basis ([2]), that shows which articles with a template use which particular parameters. Does your tool do something that the monthly report doesn't (aside from being up-to-date in real time)? Plantdrew (talk) 05:43, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I wrote the tool on request to supply someone with a local database that supports fast querying on the parameters of this template. If you have any suggestions on how this can be accomplished in an alternative manner I would be interested in hearing them. Reinderientalk/contribs 21:20, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I have no suggestions. I only know of inelegant ways to query the parameters. It looks like you have a good solution for fast querying the parameters of this template. If this solution is could be readily adapted to support other infobox-type templates aside from Mycomorphbox I would bet there would be some interest in that. Plantdrew (talk) 02:07, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- I have removed this unexplained parameter from the template. It probably violated some aspect of MOS, but I don't have time to look at the moment. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:19, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- I have no suggestions. I only know of inelegant ways to query the parameters. It looks like you have a good solution for fast querying the parameters of this template. If this solution is could be readily adapted to support other infobox-type templates aside from Mycomorphbox I would bet there would be some interest in that. Plantdrew (talk) 02:07, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- The monthly report can't be used to query on many parameters simultaneously. This is very helpful for mushroom identification. Example:
- python -m mycota 'select * from mycota where
- (sporePrintColor="white" or sporePrintColor2="white") and
- stipeCharacter="ring and volva"
- order by title' Etoombs (talk) 03:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Plantdrew Is there a report (somewhat similar to the quite-useful Bambots report) that flags template transclusions that have used field values unsupported by the template? If not, I'll be implementing that feature. I also will be following your advice to split this tool in two: one generic template-download utility, and a separate utility specific to Mycomorphbox that pulls it in via submodule. Reinderientalk/contribs 12:37, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Reinderien:, there isn't a report that I know of, but there is Module:Check for unknown parameters that populates categories such as Category:Pages using automatic taxobox with unknown parameters. Plantdrew (talk) 16:13, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- I wrote the tool on request to supply someone with a local database that supports fast querying on the parameters of this template. If you have any suggestions on how this can be accomplished in an alternative manner I would be interested in hearing them. Reinderientalk/contribs 21:20, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
stipeCharacter clarification
[edit]The stipeCharacter field is described as being a place to describe veils. How should we describe a species that has a partial veil which does not leave an annulus? "ring" would indicate that a partial veil is present but could be misleading if this does not typically leave an annulus at maturity. "bare" would make it clear that this species is not typically annulate but could also suggest that it lacks a veil entirely. Dgrootmyers (talk) 18:36, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Requested move 11 November 2025
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Template:Mycomorphbox → Template:Infobox mycological characteristics – Use the standard naming style of infoboxes with WP:TPN (Template names are easiest to remember if they follow standard English spelling, spacing, and capitalization
) fixes. Gonnym (talk) 16:38, 11 November 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. --pro-anti-air ––>(talk)<–– 23:29, 18 November 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPathtalk 07:01, 6 December 2025 (UTC)
- I support the idea in general, but the proposed name is too long. This box's name parallels {{speciesbox}} and {{taxobox}}. Make sure to post notices at relevant project talk pages. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:39, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Is that a problem? If the old name is kept as a redirect, one can always use that. Or am I missing something here? Paradoctor (talk) 12:15, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
- Not missing anything. Jonesey95, well the name reflects what is is for... Gonnym (talk) 13:46, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
- Is that a problem? If the old name is kept as a redirect, one can always use that. Or am I missing something here? Paradoctor (talk) 12:15, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject Infoboxes and
[[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fungi|WikiProject Fungi]] (already notified) have been notified of this discussion. ASUKITE 16:48, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
- What's wrong with
{{Mycologybox}},{{Fungusbox}},{{Infobox mycology}}, or{{Infobox fungus}}? VanIsaac, GHTV contrabout 17:25, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
Italic title suppression is broken
[edit]@Gonnym: A bunch of articles using this box have popped up in Category:Pages with DISPLAYTITLE conflicts. Attempting to fix Psilocybe liniformans var. americana, I noticed that |italic_title=no does not work. Paradoctor (talk) 12:13, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
Fixed. @Gonnym: changed how |name=is processed. I don't think that was intended. Also, passing|italic_title=to {{infobox}} with a blank value enables italic titling. That is screwy. I have documented that quirk on the infobox template documentation page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:10, 16 November 2025 (UTC)- Thanks! Paradoctor (talk) 21:13, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
I suggest adding the morphological group
[edit]Good day, dear English-speaking mushroom enthusiasts. I have localized this template in the Russian Wikipedia (together with another contributor WindEwriX) and added a form= parameter that characterizes the morphological group of the fungus. Before describing the details, I think it would be useful to outline the group itself. If you wish, you can implement it in your version as well.
| value | file | text |
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agaricoid
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Agaric | |
shelf
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Polypore | |
pleurotoid
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Pleurotoid fungi | |
puffball
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Puffball | |
gasteroid
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Gasteroid fungi | |
clavarioid
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Clavarioid fungi | |
discomycetes
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Discomycetes | |
corticioid
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Corticioid fungi |
...and the corresponding raster illustration
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Alexey Afanasovich (talk) 11:30, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- FYI, the raster "agaric" is actually a bolete. Esculenta (talk) 17:13, 3 December 2025 (UTC)