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Ukrainian hromada names question

Hi, thanks for your work on many pages relating to Ukraine. Specifically, thanks for creating many of the Ukrainian hromada pages, which I know takes a quite a bit of time. I do though notice some uncertainty regarding the hromada names, especially for ones which are not named after their respective admin. centers (quite rare though).

For example, the Kamianka settlement hromada is named after the admin. center town Kamianka, instead of named "Bilmak" like the Ukrainian version of the hromada page. But, in Poliske settlement hromada, the name follows the Ukrainian name, and not the town center of Krasiatychi.

Similar questions also arise in the following hromadas (that I have found so far): Sofiivka rural hromada, Suvorove settlement hromada, Zolochivska rural hromada, Prystolychna rural hromada, and Feodosiivka rural hromada.

I don't know if editors have already discussed this question, but it certainly deserves some attention, at least a general consensus on which to follow would be helpful. Any previous consensus or personal thoughts about this? Thanks! TeddyRoosevelt1912 (talk) 19:39, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Hey Theo thanks for the post and many thanks for your work on Ukraine articles too! :) About the names, the hromada articles are named after the legal name of the hromadas, which I based on the Ukrainian government's decentralization database (which is also where I got the other stats/info about each hromada when making those articles). The 2020 administrative reform law creating most of the new hromadas also shows the names as they were in 2020 though there's quite a few raions/hromadas with outdated names (mostly those affected by derussification).

About the inconsistency in naming though, there is no legal requirement that hromadas be named after their admin. centers, at least as far as I know. Local officials/populations within a hromada can technically choose any name for their hromada within reason and send it to the Verkhovna Rada for official recognition. A different but similar example that comes to mind for me is Volyn Oblast, which is administratively centered in Lutsk but isn't named after it. Sometimes it's also just an issue of a delay in figuring out what the name of the hromada is going to be after the admin. center is renamed (I didn't look into it too much but it would make sense for a case like Suvorove settlement hromada, where the admin. center was renamed Katlabuh in September but probably not everyone in the neighboring villages/settlements wants the hromada to be called Katlabuh settlement hromada or just might still feel attached to the former name Suvorove). For Kamianka, I originally created that article as Bilmak settlement hromada before it was moved by another editor HappyWith per the hromada's website (which uses the name Kamianka instead of Bilmak).

The only general consensus as far as hromadas titles go is the title name structure (e.g. "rural hromada", "settlement hromada", & "urban hromada", with raion/oblast disambiguators appended when needed). Also with Wikipedia:Romanization of Ukrainian for questions of spelling/punctuation/etc. If there's any doubt in what the name of a hromada is, just search for the most recent official Ukrainian government source that mentions it and that's the name that should be used (I think I agree with HappyWith too in giving precedence to the hromada websites themselves but only in cases where those websites are more recent than other alternative gov. sources). Sorry for being a little long-winded but hope this helps and feel free to let me know if you have any other Ukraine-related questions... always a pleasure talking or editing about Ukraine! ;) Dan the Animator 23:25, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Hey Dan, thanks so much for the explanation, it really clears up the situation. I guess it make sense that there isn't a particular consensus on these names (after all, it's not like the gov't doesn't like renaming places). I'll try to research the most recent official name for the hromadas when necessary, but considering all the renaming going on, I'll probably wait a bit and see what happens for now.

I do though have another question about the romanization, since some hromadas (mainly ones named after admin centers) don't include the Ukrainian adjective endings (ex: Kamianka instead of Kamianska), but those named differently (i.e. not after the admin centers, like the ones we were discussing) would include this adjective ending (ex: Zolochivska instead of just Zolochiv). I know this is likely because without having the town name, it's much harder to tell what the word originally is, so most editors just transliterate the whole word with the adjective endings. But is there any consensus on what to or not to do in these situations? TeddyRoosevelt1912 (talk) 03:24, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Yup, no worries! I wouldn't stress about researching each name since it's only a relatively small number of hromadas (about a dozen or two out of the 1000+ total), with the rest sticking to the name of their admin. center. If you accidentally use an outdated name, it's also okay since it's good to have redirects in place for those cases.

About romanization, yup, Ukrainian adjective endings should generally be avoided unless its part of the actual town name. Like you said tho, it can be tough when the namesake of the hromada is unclear and I remember having a bit of a hard time with it when making some of the articles. The best way to handle it is to see what the namesake is and, if possible, see comparable names/examples. Basically a case-by-case approach where there is substantial doubt.

For Zolochivska, turns out I originally created that article as Zolochiv rural hromada before it was moved/edited by some other editor. From a cursory look through, I think the decision to move the article was a mistake and probably it should be brought back to Zolochiv, although I would start a move discussion involving other editors just in case. Let me know if there's other cases where you're not sure. Also, in case you're thinking/planning on creating en.wiki articles for the rest of the hromadas that are missing them, please let me know since there's some past conversations/resources that would be important to have when mass-creating any additional hromadas. Dan the Animator 04:48, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

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Featured List Candidates

Good Morning! I have two Featured List candidates – U.S. Figure Skating Championships and World Figure Skating Championships – both of which seem to have stalled. If you have any free time and would be willing to look at either or both of them, it would be greatly appreciated!

Also, feel free to check out Ukrainian Figure Skating Championships, which was promoted to Featured List earlier this year since I know you edit articles related to Ukraine. Bgsu98 (Talk) 12:36, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

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Just checking in

Is everything alright? It's been almost a month since your last edit. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 11:59, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Hey Shwabb, yup everything's alright don't worry. I really wanted to get back to editing sooner but this time of the year is always the busiest for me with off-wiki work and I've just had to prioritize that work first to get it all finished. That said, my months-long vacation starts this weekend so very soon I'll get back to editing and as my first priority finishing where I left off with the footnotes and other FLN edits. Fair warning though I'm very, very exhausted after these long past few weeks so I might need the weekend a little bit more to rest a bit before fully editing but I'm sure I'll have all/most of the remaining footnotes done before end of next week. Thanks for checking in and also for the footnotes/new edit (might be a bit tough but try not to finish everything too quickly) ;) Dan the Animator 18:51, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Sure, take your time. I just got slightly concerned when you suddenly stopped editing for a relatively long period of time after saying that you've been sick, and I didn't want the FLN to get too dragged out. Glad to know everything is good. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 05:51, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

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This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, PresN (talk) via FACBot (talk) 02:34, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

Great job! 😃 Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:56, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

Thanks thanks :) Dan the Animator 03:59, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Wikipedia:WikiProject Ukraine/Requests/Archive

Hi - thanks for the notification. Did you list this on the project talk page? Chaosdruid (talk) 21:02, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

@Chaosdruid done, just added a post for this and another similar MfD on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ukraine. Thanks for the ask about it :) Dan the Animator 22:13, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

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class

Hi there, a couple of things. Please note that SIA is not a class on the standard scale, so you can just use |class=list for these. Also, there is no need to add the class to individual project banners - just putting it in the banner shell is sufficient. Thank you — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:53, 14 October 2025 (UTC)

@MSGJ recently I've updated WP:Ukraine to use a custom class mask that includes SIAs. Adding the class to WP:Ukraine is necessary in order to bypass the current default list assessment like you said. For the WP banner class, since it default treats SIA as list, and considering SIA is the actual class-type of the pages, I don't see a compelling reason to have the markup say list (imo this will mislead other editors into thinking those pages are actual stand alone stub list-class articles instead of SIAs, which have quite different editing guidelines). I also checked with @PresN before adding the markup to those pages and he can also maybe explain this better than I did and verify the markup is fine. If there are any issues though feel free to let me know and Ill fix them Dan the Animator 17:02, 14 October 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, you have the right of it- bannershell treats SIA as a synonym of list, but if it ever supports it natively then having it set as SIA rather than List will be helpful, and in the meantime it means that the class matches what the article says in templates. And yeah, the Ukraine project supports SIA as a class, but it's not passed through from the bannershell template so you have to override it in the Ukraine template. --PresN 17:13, 14 October 2025 (UTC)

Thanks PresN! I also just noticed that Cewbot removed the WP:Ukraine project bypass SIA-class markup from a lot of the pages while keeping the SIA markup in the banner. I would think maybe adding {{nobots}} to the pages might help though wondering how you did it with WP:VG's SIAs which don't use it. Dan the Animator 17:25, 14 October 2025 (UTC)

@MSGJ: wanted to follow up in case, I'm planning on doing an AWB run sometime later this week restoring the WP:Ukraine override SIA-class markup that Cewbot took out and adding in the nobots templates to prevent the same bot mistakes again if you're alright with it. Also would greatly appreciate any comments or advice you'd have and feel free to let me or PresN (who has a lot of experience with WikiProject markup/categorization) if there's questions or anything. Dan the Animator 21:40, 14 October 2025 (UTC)

Please do not apply the nobots template. It would be much better to follow up with the bot operator to see why the bot did this, to ensure the process is working correctly for the benefit of all projects. The bot has made millions of edits and correctly identifies projects which have opted out of PIQA in all other cases, so I suspect there is an error with the way you have set up the banner rather than an error with the bot. My personal preference is that you use class=list because this is the standard name for the class which the community has agreed to use. Yes, SIA will work as an alias for List but this was more to catch mistakes than an active encouragement to use a non-standard class. (If we ever did decide to add SIA to the standard list, this could easily be detected automatically from the article text so an explicit class parameter would not be needed anyway.) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:54, 14 October 2025 (UTC)

Follow up ... I see that your changes to the project banner were reverted by Bearcat, so that explains why the invalid classes were removed by the bot. Can I just say that I was rather surprised that none of these changes were discussed with the project at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ukraine. They seem like quite major changes and should normally be discussed first. Regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:16, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

Thanks @Martin for the detailed replies and suggestions! :) To reply to both posts above:

- Great suggestion! Just saw @Bearcat's edit and I think the issues with the redlinked cats which I didn't find when the new markup came out will likely be easy to fix.

- About the personal preference of using class=List, fair enough. I just think it makes more confusion than anything and there's a stronger case for making them SIA in the markup (here's the discussion with more rationale too if it helps).

- I didn't think a discussion was necessary at WP:Ukraine because these 'changes' are not implementing anything new. As you mentioned, all/almost all these SIAs already had the set-index article template on their page (including many with an SIA-template with a WP:Ukraine-specific SIA param, populated places in Ukraine). These talkpage markup edits simply extend that SIA-recognition to into WikiProject markup framework. That said, for the edits to the WP:Ukraine project template, I'll open a discussion at the project talkpage to get more feedback but I don't think it's necessary since again, the WP:Policy and standing consensus is that these pages are SIAs and changes to the template markup are necessary to fully recognize that. Dan the Animator 19:17, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

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Gaza Hostage nationalities

Hello. I see that you added a lot of nationalities based on the Hope for Hostages site. However, I'm concerned by the accuracy of the site, as Hadar Goldin is not believed to have ever been a British citizen, per the Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/02/missing-israeli-soldier-lived-uk). They may have been adding nationalities without knowing if someone was a citizen or not, which would suggest Hope for Hostages is not a reliable site. I would encourage you to double check if the duel-nationals listed are in fact duel nationals according to any more reputable site. Atriskofmistake (talk) 03:33, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the post @Atriskofmistake :) I agree yup and thanks also for the Guardian article link. I'd imagine the lot of them are alright but I'll go through them individually eventually to find independent sources that back up each nationality. Also would greatly appreciate any help with this too and feel free to make any corrections you spot. Usually I found it helps to search the hostage name in the nationality's language, which gives news sources that make often make those connections. Government sources are also helpful and I noticed for the Hope for Hostages site, besides incorrectly adding nationalities like you mentioned, it also misses nationalities (e.g. Sahar Baruch, who according to the Bulgarian MFA was also a Bulgarian citizen but is listed on the Hope for Hostages site as just a Israeli national). Feel free also to message me with any other queries and suggestions and thanks for looking into this! Best, Dan the Animator 16:25, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

@Atriskofmistake I manually reverted the removals for Herkin and Ohel per the sources cited in those edit summaries but thanks for the scrutiny. I think if you're doubtful of any other hostage's nationality, first do a good search to see what the case is and maybe if possible try to find a source (and include it in the edit summary) that directly says that they don't have that citizenship (like the good Guardian source you found for Goldin, which directly questions/states he didn't have British citizenship, though could be better since that's sourced to a friend's testimony rather than an official source). Dan the Animator 20:07, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

Dan, I think we need positive proof more than negative proof. If the sourcing is dodgy, its fine to remove it until something more grounded is located. ← Metallurgist (talk) 00:57, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

@Metallurgist I don't disagree though so far it seems the nationalities are generally on the mark. There are most likely a few that are incorrect but the majority are good so I think it would be better to not to remove all of them at once but double check each one, with more conspicuous cases taking priority? I'm fine with them being removed if there's an effort to readd them backed up by other sources though I get the sense it'd be easier just to leave them and remove the ones that can't be backed up. What do you think? Dan the Animator 01:02, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

My view is if they are wrong, then just remove them and leave an edit summary. Its really a minor part of the page. Also, this should really be on the talk page, not here. ← Metallurgist (talk) 01:09, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

Fair enough. Feel free to take out those that aren't independently sourced (the people I personally found separate sources on are indicated on my edit summaries to the article w/ the links to the sources). I think some were also independently verified before I started working on the article too (i.e. Neutra and Chen) and feel free to let me know if I can help with it. Dan the Animator 01:14, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

Also apologies for the discussion thread ending up here-quite rare for my talkpage to get this much attention... Dan the Animator 01:16, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

My apologies! Atriskofmistake (talk) 01:20, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

@Atriskofmistake I had concerns about that site as well, but it is a starting point. Feel free to rectify any inaccuracies or mention it on the talk page. ← Metallurgist (talk) 00:52, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

Date pages

You've done some cracking good work on these. Thank you! Deb (talk) 09:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks @Deb :) I haven't really edited DOY articles since my attempt at an RfC on them didn't get anywhere but still much appreciated. Thank you too for all of your great work improving and maintaining those articles, and for your amazing contributions across wiki! Dan the Animator 15:53, 27 November 2025 (UTC)