Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alcantara (material)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. -- Cirt (talk) 17:27, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alcantara (material)

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An unsourced article (the sole "reference" says nothing to support anything in the article) which contains a number of statements said by the rights owners to violate trademark, trade secrets etc. Originally created by the WP:SPA Comunicazionealcantara (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Perhaps a lesson for them in unintended consequences, but not one we should use against them out of malice. Yes, the material exists and is in widespread use (my first Volvo V70 had Leather-Alcantara trim).

The entire content of the article needs to be sourced as a matter of urgency, or the article deleted as unsourceable. Guy (Help!) 00:15, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 01:27, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So this is how it works now - call an AFD if you want a notable article fixed, and delete it if nobody shows up :-). Snowy keep, but merge Alcantara and Ultrasuede, and probably put them both into the parent article microfiber. This would also quench discussions on differences between Ultrasuede and Alcantara. Talk:Alcantara_(material) is the place to discuss it (or better go bold and do it). This might help. Gosh, you can search Google books, and you had a car lined up with it - I've never even heard the name before :-). Materialscientist (talk) 06:00, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Think of the D as in "discussion". The article is said by the rights owners to be substantially inaccurate, the sources we cite are not sufficient to remedy that, therefore it needs better sources orremoving as unfixably inaccurate. Guy (Help!) 01:30, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And what if the rights owners are verifiably wrong? Do we change the article then to something inaccurate? Not saying they necessarily are in this case, but if reliable sources X, Y and Z say A, but the manufacturer says "no, it's B, change it", what do we do? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:49, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:43, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep ...... certainly no more self serving or a trademark violation then this.......... Special k. Though the article does appear to need some work it does provide general information regarding the product that appears to have numerous uses and has been around for several decades. Additional information like that provided here [1] might be added. About that trade secrets issue ..... no more information has been given then could not be garnered from a hazardous materials data sheet nor have details been given to reproduce the manufacturing process. --StormHarbinger 03:41, 8 December 2010 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Warrior777 (talk • contribs)

Speedy keep - distinctly notable and widely-used material. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:52, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.