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The result was keep. Mkdwtalk 01:04, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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No sources indicating the vessels notability. Searches on Google and Google Books yielded no usable results. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 21:47, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep The convention is that such vessels are considered notable. There is at least one publication covering this and sister ships of the Norwegian Coastguard and plenty of other evidence on Google backing up the information in the article, though the best sources may well be print ones. Note that this vessel is also designated KV "Alesund" in Norway. --AJHingston (talk) 00:01, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Which convention are you referring to? The convention that appears to be applicable here is WP:GNG, which requires significant coverage in reliable independent sources. I am not seeing any evidence of such coverage in the article. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 06:50, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Please read the page to which you provided a link here, which says "As for any subject on Wikipedia, presumption of notability for a military unit or formation depends wholly on the existence of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject." How is shipspotting.com a reliable source? The definition at http://www.shipspotting.com/about/terms.php says "Shipspotting.com is an online community for ship photos and related topics. The webpage contains more than 500 000 pictures of vessels and is the worlds largest in its kind. The photo section of Shipspotting provides an online gallery for ship photographers. The overall mission is to create a setting where ship photographers can gain maximum exposure for their work and to provide for a meeting place for ship enthusiasts from all over the world." How is that what Wikipedia considers a reliable source? -- Toshio Yamaguchi 20:10, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Uhm, what exactly is your reason for keeping the article here? -- Toshio Yamaguchi 20:20, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as per RightCowLeftCoast's comment — KV Ålesund is a commissioned vessel of the Norwegian Coast Guard (and not even a small one). Tupsumato (talk) 19:54, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment According to this article in the Norwegian Wikipedia, Ålesund handles more missions per year than any other Norwegian Coast Guard or Navy ship. No source on that, though, but assuming we found one, it should make Ålesund notable enough for an article.
      Also, are we running out of space in Wikipedia or what? I admit I might be nudging WP:OSE, but I have to agree with Palmeira below regarding many existing ship articles, quite a large portion of which would fall under WP:MILL or similar. Even big ships rarely make it into the news unless they hit something... Tupsumato (talk) 23:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      • Comment reply The U.S. Army Engineer Port Repair ship is a case on point. There were few, with one exception they were of an orphan MC design that happened to be available for an Army requirement of somewhat mixed support with those largely getting modified too late to make it at the time of most need and are pretty much a dead end. I know them pretty well and could "do an article" on each with as much substance as many DANFS paragraph expansions long established here. There is no point in my opinion. The value is to have the context for anyone casually running across one of the weird things in historical texts. That is well served I think by keeping them together in that single article with perhaps a table of the individual ships showing dates and a brief "career" note. That would serve for many military vessels presumed to be notable enough for a stand along piece. Palmeira (talk) 00:19, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Coverage in 2007 edition of Combat Fleets of the World - here (p. 521). Should also be covered in appropriate issues of Jane,s Fighting Ships and similar. There is also likely to be significant coverage of this large fisheries patrol vessel in local Norwegian news sources.Nigel Ish (talk) 20:27, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
News-type coverage (in Norwegian) includes assisting storm hit villages, responding to the discovery of a naval mine, rescuing a cargo vessel after engine failure, arresting a British fishing boat suspected of illegal fishing, and rescuing more cargo ships. A reasonable amount of news coverage there.Nigel Ish (talk) 15:20, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Mkdwtalk 01:04, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This article has no particular claim to notability in the lede making it difficult to identify notability. Searches of google news and books failed to bring up any sources on this person. Straight google search didn't identify any references either save the IMDB one (which is already doubtful). So, lacking notability and being an unsourced biographical article on a living person, I think it should be deleted GraemeLeggett (talk) 20:49, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to List of Tracy Beaker series characters. Mkdwtalk 01:05, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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It seems this is the only character from Tracy Beaker Returns to have her own article whilst the rest direct to List of Tracy Beaker series characters, The list goes in to great detail about all characters so IMO this article's a repeat of what's here
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  • Redirect to the list of characters, as seems typical with other characters from this series. If there were more sources or more information to add, you might have an argument to WP:FORK - but no so much when this just duplicates the character list. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 13:44, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. If anyone wants a userfied copy I'll be glad to oblige.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:07, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This is promotional material about a non-notable individual. In fact, it's a direct copy of her website, and although we have permission to use it, this encyclopedia is not designed to host PR materials. Predictably, the article is also the only contribution of the article creator. Now, if someone wants to demonstrate notability through multiple published secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject, wonderful. But we surely don't have that as of now. - Biruitorul Talk 18:14, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Courcelles 17:39, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:N. No search results for <"Unsinkable 1912">, <"Unsinkable 1912" film>, etc. Possibly WP:HOAX. jonkerz ♠talk 17:55, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as a GNG failure. Note that this is the second and only other creation by the creator of the article How to save a life (2011), which is currently showing every indication of being a hoax. Carrite (talk) 19:39, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - No indication anywhere on the internet that such a film exists, so far as I can see. I'm going to drop a HOAX tag on this also, in wake of the content creator's other WP venture, feel free to revert if evidence surfaces that such a film exists. Carrite (talk) 19:42, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 17:39, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:N. No search results for <"How to save a life" "Nina Smythe">, <"Nina Smythe" film>, etc. Possibly WP:HOAX. jonkerz ♠talk 17:54, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as apparent hoax; even if it isn't a hoax, there's no evidence of notability, and the article itself is totally unreferenced. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 19:11, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - No opinion on whether this is a hoax, but it is clear as Stolychnaya that this ostensible indy film doesn't meet the threshold of GNG. Carrite (talk) 19:30, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is the only hit I was able to find for it. I don't recognize the site at all, but it looks like it's based on user submissions. The photo for "Harriet Newlands" was taken from this model site (thank you, drag-and-drop Google image search), so it's likely just another iteration of the same hoax we have here. postdlf (talk) 19:31, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - In light of the above, I have dropped a HOAX tag on the piece. Carrite (talk) 19:35, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 17:38, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Appears to be a non-notable company. The article has two questionable refs, and Google has returned little else. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:38, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete The nearest to a claim to notability in the article is being named "one of the 200 fastest-growing firms in the architecture, engineering, and environmental consulting industry" one year. Aside from that I can find passing mentions about them moving into a new office space, but neither these nor the one-of-200 meets WP:CORPDEPTH. AllyD (talk) 18:33, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 17:38, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Unsourced article about a non-notable application. Fails WP:NSOFTWARE. - MrX 16:19, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - Supposedly an app for iphone/ipad, yet a direct search of the iTunes app store comes up empty. Other searches only return a video demonstrating the concept. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 17:03, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Mkdwtalk 01:06, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NALBUMS. No significant coverage by reliable sources. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 16:11, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep -This is a well-noted album. As person says above, we need to also recognize pre-Internet era documentation as well which can get forgotten in these discussions. It also is an exceptional instance of a John Gilmore recording post-1958 outside of the home of the Sun Ra Arkestra.Dogru144 (talk) 13:59, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete housekeeping non-admin closure: 06:12, 2 June 2013 Boing! said Zebedee (talk | contribs) deleted page "Cafe Impact" (A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject) czar · · 07:12, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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No significant coverage in reliable sources. All sources are blogs or associated with the subject. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 15:57, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Courcelles 17:40, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable (article has zero third party article reference). Loginnigol (talk) 15:14, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep, easily found literally thousands of results among secondary sources including books, news media, and scholarly academic references. — Cirt (talk) 18:49, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Google Books is the best first place to look for these, not google. (1) Attwood, Feona. Porn.Com: Making Sense of Online Pornography. New York: Peter Lang, 2010. (a respectable academic publisher; GBks shows extensive coverage on p72 and 20 other pages, and the book is in over 300 libraries a/c WorldCat) (2) Substantialdiscussion on several pages] of Hall, Donald E. Reading Sexual. Hoboken: Taylor and Francis, 2012. (A well-known writer on literary theory & sexuality) (3)Brief coverage in academic works, for example : Weitzer, Ronald John. Sex for Sale: Prostitution, Pornography, and the Sex Industry. New York: Routledge, 2000.; Freedman, Eric. Transient Images: Personal Media in Public Frameworks. Philadelphia, Pa: Temple University Press, 2011.(4) Brief mention or discussion in non academic books, for example, Levy, Frederick. 15 Minutes of Fame Becoming a Star in the YouTube Revolution. New York, N.Y.: Alpha, 2008. Thompson, Damian. The Fix: How Addiction Is Invading Our Lives and Taking Over Your World. London: Collins, 2013. (5) References to it in numerous works of fiction which anyone can find in G Bks if interested, probably enough to support a Xtube in literature, etc. section. (6) Article in The Advocate 2009, p.250 , not sure of which issue. and undoubtedly elsewhere--I haven't even checked the indexes.
The challenge has bern met--it took me all of 2 minutes with one subset of Google to find them, another 10 to verify and add the refs here, using no specialized knowledge whatsoever.; I suppose the nom will now withdraw the AfD ? DGG ( talk ) 22:46, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The criteria is what is on the page, not merely what is out there somewhere in cyberspace. The article is over a year old and still has zero amount of third party reference Loginnigol (talk) 00:20, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Not really, the criteria applies to the subject, not to our article. Problems with our article are WP:FIXTHEPROBLEM problems if the subject itself it notable. We don't delete an article just because it hasn't been maintained. Stalwart111 02:54, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:09, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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fails WP:ORG. Recent AfDs have shown embassies are not inherently notable. This one is merely a listing of non notable ambassadors. LibStar (talk) 14:34, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Courcelles 17:41, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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fails WP:GNG. All there is to these relations is diplomatic recognition. No agreements, no state visits, no significant trade or migration. LibStar (talk) 14:01, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep :Any signing of diplomatic relations is notable. I have provided evidence of bilateral trade to the article. The Bhutan -Slovenia diplomatic relation is less than a year old, so trade agreements and state visits are not to start this soon. I disagree with deleting this article and to say that two nations agreeing to start bilateral relations is notable. --KuchenZimjah (talk) 15:41, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
no, simply having diplomatic relations does not mean an automatic Wikipedia article. There needs to be significant coverage in third party sources which is lacking here. The level of trade is very low, many companies spend that money in one hour. LibStar (talk) 16:26, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 17:42, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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An art dealer who specializes in a particular form of Japanese art, and has written about it some. However, his books don't appear to have made any impact (nor even received any reviews from any major sources). Fails WP:BIO and WP:GNG. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:27, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak delete. Fails WP:WRITER as he is not well-known, widely-cited, or original. The only thing that gave me significant pause was that he is an editor/writer for Andon, the magazine of a notable organization, but I think it is not notable in itself. King Jakob C2 16:24, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 17:42, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NOTABLE Flat Out let's discuss it 12:01, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Courcelles 17:42, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Doesn't appear to meet any of the notability requirements at WP:MOVIE. I couldn't find anything in a WP:SET, but it's proving to be difficult to google, as there are approximately five million nail salons and resturants also named "Soleil Rouge". TKK bark ! 11:41, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:10, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Article, which appears to be an autobiography, offers no evidence of the notability of this person, and the only source cited is of doubtful reliability. RolandR (talk) 11:25, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Donny, you're a journalist. So, re-write it like it's someone else, not your good self. Pete aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:56, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see the problem. At all. Donnyshell1 (talk) 10:43, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There is a problem. That problem is Wikipedia's guidelines for people. That said, I am doing the best I can to improve the English language Wikipedia article about you.--Shirt58 (talk) 12:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Subject fails WP:CREATIVE as author ("Ghetto Celebrity" is not an influential or well-known work) and as a filmmaker (Does one short - even if it placed in film festivals - make a notable career?). Also fails #2 of WP:ANYBIO: "The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field."
Re: the "Dock Ellis" short - it might possibly help fulfill #1 of WP:ANYBIO: "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times." The subject being notable enough on this one claim seems somewhat problematic to me. Along with Neille Ilel he interviewed Ellis in 2008 for American Public Media/NPR. The short was then made/drawn/produced by James Blagden for NoMasTV in 2009 from the aired-interview. Alexander & Ilel are credited as "Narration Produced & Directed by...", so their on-screen credits are stating that they were part of the production/pre-production team, but it appears they were not directly responsible for creating the short itself since it was "Drawn & Animated by James Blagden" and "Produced by Christopher Isenberg". It is possible that the 'Dock Ellis' film itself could be notable enough for a Wikipedia article (2million+ YouTube hits, numerous write-ups, won various film festival awards, etc) but I am not convinced that Alexander himself is.
FYI - the Yahoo News/"Dock Ellis"/one-of-best-baseball-movies-of-all-time statement is from a Nov 12, 2009 "Big League Stew" column by David Brown found here. Shearonink (talk) 16:03, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy Delete (G7) - non-admin closure. Whpq (talk) 10:32, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Redundant, describes go-around with a fair bit of OR to go with it. Lfdder (talk) 11:03, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - confuses the everyday language "pull up" with the specific "pull up procedure" used in some circumstances. It might have been worth moving to Pull up procedure (aeronautics) or similar, except there is not enough significant material available to warrant an encyclopedic entry. I can't even think of a sensible redirect. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 14:15, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Not delete. The sources I've provided all talks about "pull up" (or "pull-up") as a procedure. It's no copy of "go aroud" I even thought that term was "turn around" (gotten from the TV-series "The worlds most dangerous airports". Nuumber one at that list was concidered as Lakla in Himalaya. In that program a pilot said "a turn around is not possible here") I have just accepted that "go around" is the proper (general) term. But as I do state "pull up" is a procedure that must not be confused with aureal warnings, not even "pull up" warning. The "pull up" procedure is not needed for smaller airplanes. I think some pilots of such has taken offence. I'm sorry for that. Bull the "pull up" procedure is practiced at all PFC's (test for airliner pilots, atleast twice a year). I'm asking for some more time, to references the original reseach parts. I can agree with a better name would be "pull up procedure (aviation)" Boeing720 (talk) 00:28, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • "Pull up" is a procedure as much a procedure pulling up is. You need to read your own sources. One is about going around, the other 3 are about pulling up when the GPWS sounds, i.e. when you're about to crash into the ground. — Lfdder (talk) 01:05, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Nom and Ahunt. Someone says "pull up", someone hauls the controls towards his or her stomach and pushes the throttle/s into the panel; the end. Is that a procedure - there are procedures for everything in aviation. Someone says "positive rate", someone says "gear up", someone selects the landing gear up. Someone says "flaps 10", someone moves the flaps selector to the ten-degree setting. Someone says "takeoff power", someone moves the power levers to the appropriate position; and so on.... YSSYguy (talk) 12:10, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete My copy of Jane's Aerospace Dictionary has 15,000+ entries of aviation terminology. There are two entries with the word 'pull up'. The first is 'pull up' the whole definition (which I believe I can copy here as we are not in article space) is Short sudden climb from level flight, normally trading speed for height (usually general aviation or tactical attack). The second instance is 'pull-up point', Geographical point at which aircraft must pull up from lo approach to gain sufficient height to make attack or execute retirement. The first definition could be covered by the Zoom climb article and the second is described at Toss bombing where it is described as the 'Pop-up point' which is a term that I'm more familiar with.
What I am reading in this article is a strange interpretation of the go-around procedure where the pull up part (using text from that article) is ...adopts an appropriate climb attitude and airspeed, simple aircraft handling with no need for a page of description. Referencing sentences from sources that have the words 'pull up' in them doesn't work unfortunately. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 20:33, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
OK - I take the OR criticism to me (and learn from it - however there are lots of far more unsafe articles in Wikipedia). I also admit to have written the article too hasty. And the name of the article was indeed an error. However I strongly object to the accusations of "copying the go-around article". It's like some people just will not understand that the (eledged) "pull up procedure" is a part of certain go arounds, and only applies to large aircraft with two pilots, and at very low radio altitude, runway close. I had never had a look at the "go around" article. I belived that the common term for all aborted approaches was Turn around (This phrase was used by a pilot in the TV-seies "The world's most dangerous airports" ). If you look in the history file, the first version did not contain the phrase "go around" but "turn around". (Change into "go around" was made due to inflict of an other user). I may very well return with a proper sourced "Pull up procedure (aviaiton)" article. Would a flight training guide for any large aircraft be a sufficient source ? Including a chapter of "Pull ups" that do not apply to any warning sound !? Boeing720 (talk) 12:54, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As has already been made clear, there is no such thing as a specific 'pull up procedure' in aviation. Pulling back on the controls in order to level out or climb is simply something on does in an aircraft in appropriate circumstances. It certainly does not only apply to 'large aircraft with two pilots'. Please do not waste peoples time recreating articles based on your misunderstanding of subject matter. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:30, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In aviation "turn around" refers to servicing an aircraft with fuel, oil, inspecting it pre-flight, etc after its arrival, in preparation for a departure. When a pilot requests a "quick turn around" from servicing, he is asking for a hasty refuelling, etc, so he can get back in the air quickly. I think you are confusing a bunch of different stuff you saw on TV, none of which was accurate. - Ahunt (talk) 13:38, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree with Lfdder. To show that I've actually have taken the OR, and name criticism to heart, I did delete the text of the article myself. (And got an automatic warning for doing so...) However I did never use any material from the "go around" article. And by study the history file, which I didn't delete, (and don't know how to) I used the phrase "turn around" - not "go around" when I first created the article. This was later changed only due to the first criticism at the article's talk page. And I do not "here and now" state that "turn around" was correct. Please try to understand that the mention of "turn around" at this page "here and now" only was an attempt to disprove the wrongfully accusation of that I had copied any text from the "go around" page. I.o.w. - again - I have taken all criticism (except "the copy accusement") to heart, and will learn from it. (The fact that sources of "pull ups" within aviation is difficult to find at internet, does not exclude that I some other time will find good sources of "pull up procedure" elsewhere though. If that will be the case, time will tell. Otherwise I will not return with an improved article. I do also accept that some people don't belive that that the "pull up procedure" exist (or has existed). Fair enough ? Boeing720 (talk) 18:01, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • I fail to see where you were accused of copying the go-around article. The editors stated that this article duplicates it, meaning it is redundant to that article, not that it was an exact copy of it, or sections of it. In the future, you should probably seek advice of the editors at WT:AIR before attempting to re-create this article, as the clear consensus here was going to be a delete anyway. - BilCat (talk) 18:13, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to Stars Go Dim. Courcelles 17:43, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NALBUMS, which is basically a link to WP:GNG.

The only independent review of the album that I can see in the refs is the article at Channel One News, and that's really about the band rather than the album.

A google search throws up nothing which might might meet the WP:GNG test of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:05, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Stars Go Dim. Only album released and does not meet N. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 22:39, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was procedural close - wrong venue (non-admin close). Stalwart111 10:18, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This contains testing and vandalism, Therefore, I nominate this for deletion. BlListChecket (talk) 09:13, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Michig (talk) 06:33, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Flat out non notable. I couldnt establish notability in google or even find any film reviews or critiques of this guy's work. I hesitate to BLP-PROD it as it has external links, but they arent exactly credible. TKK bark ! 04:52, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - I am unable to find any reliable sources with which to establish notability. Fails WP:ARTIST. - MrX 13:30, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - I performed a reasonably thorough internet search on Mickael perret and his two films. While many of the entries were in French, they run nicely through translate programs. However, I found next to nothing outside of brief entries and most of these sources are not independent of Perret or his films. In fact, both films are brief - 18 minutes each. This director has not to date done enough to be notable and next to nothing is known of his background. Bill Pollard (talk) 10:30, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Does not meet N or GNG. The works themselves also do not seem to meet it either, so merging doesn't seem helpful. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 22:44, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Userfied to User:Cinemasecrets/Scott King (actor) Mark Arsten (talk) 17:44, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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BLP without reliable sources of apparently non-notable actor Pinkbeast (talk) 01:54, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As in, I think it's delete for two reasons; it's a BLP whose sources are all interviews, IMDB, etc; and as I interpret the notability criteria for actors, if the sources are to be believed, he's nowhere close. Pinkbeast (talk) 01:55, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Category:This is my first article and I have worked hard to learn proper format. I am frustrated by the desires to take it down so quickly. I follow film industry personalities particularly in horror filmdom and saw this actor at the South Texas Horror Con. He is not an A or B list actor but he does have a following among the world wide Puppet Master fans, and fans of Charles Band. He also had the lead in a Bio Channel network premier late last year. I am interested in following protocol and want to create other articles on Hollywood actors. This movie received a Wikipedia article with unknown, obscure actors also having pages: Plan 9 from Outer Space The Puppet Master X: Axis Rising film received an article: Puppet Master X: Axis Rising and two of the minor characters have pages. I am confused as to why the lead villain in a famous franchise would not warrant an article as well. User:Cinemasecrets(talk) 19.39, 1 June 2013
  • Delete - Fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO. →Davey2010→→Talk to me!→ 19:53, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 17:45, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable footballer, fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Hasn't played in a fully professional league and hasn't been subject to significant coverage in reliable sources Hack (talk) 01:31, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Has played club football at national league level although the NSL was not completely pro. Also represented Australia at youth level. Article needs improvement but should be kept.Simione001 (talk) 01:57, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Shimeru 03:04, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The article is sourced from the subjects website. Koala15 (talk) 04:57, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment The rationale offered is only partly true: 3 of the 8 references are to the subject's website. But even if it was wholly true, the question here is one of whether notability can be demonstrated, not simply the quality of the current references. (That said, strong references are not immediately evident.)AllyD (talk) 06:56, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Regardless of the sources, he still does not meet notability guidelines. Koala15 (talk) 14:13, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The subject keeps s close track of his media mentions at his website, and it does not approach the sourcing standards required here. I was unable to find anything better that had escaped his curation. 86.42.94.218 (talk) 11:05, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Mkdwtalk 01:08, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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At first glance the Simpel-Fonetik alphabet looked to me like a worthy subject for Wikipedia, but when I went to search for possible references online I came up almost empty-handed. The only thing I found that wasn't published by the alphabet's creator was this article (snippet view) in the Stanford Alumni magazine. By itself, I don't think that this is enough to satisfy Wikipedia's general notability guideline. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:25, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Shimeru 03:02, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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No notability in the industry. The main website has not been updated for over 2 years. The functionality described in the article has been popularly captured by npm (software) Voidvector (talk) 07:50, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Deleted by User:Ronhjones under G7 Mkdwtalk 01:08, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I usually like lists, but I don't think this one is encyclopedic in any sense. Whatever information is here should be in articles on the individual games, or possible the device. DGG ( talk ) 00:17, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Per your request, I have added the column, and added a few entries I knew from memory. (I'll do more as I continue my efforts to clean up the list/article.) This now make the article in question that much more redundant, and thus necessary to delete. Sergecross73 msg me 00:56, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Mkdwtalk 01:07, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Trivial, NOT NEWS applies DGG ( talk ) 00:14, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Trivial? This is history for NS paramedics and set the tone for many things in our system.( talk ) —Preceding undated comment added 01:39, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:12, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Notability is in question - the only references are to the groups website. Part of the problem is constant revision of edits to a copyviolation of the groups website. I would cause a deletion due to copyvio but perhaps this debate will clarify things. Peter Rehse (talk) 12:25, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I found passing mentions of this in lists of martial arts, but no significant coverage. Currently the article has no independent sources. Questionable notability, no significant coverage, and lack of independent sources all contribute to my vote. There's also a COI issue.Mdtemp (talk) 16:41, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I returned it to the clean version with tags intact (again). Was contacted by the author - maybe he understood. This still has problems though.Peter Rehse (talk) 10:04, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The current version of the article has no sources and this style doesn't seem to meet WP:MANOTE either. The organization's website lists 3 training locations worldwide. 204.126.132.231 (talk) 16:44, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've found and added a reference from a well known and reliable author of the martial arts. I am starting to lean towards Keep.Peter Rehse (talk) 13:44, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Peter, the question isn't whether it exists, it's whether it's notable. I'd call the source you found a passing mention in a book dedicated to listing every martial art in the world. Can you show me some significant, independent coverage or how it meets WP:MANOTE? Papaursa (talk) 21:58, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I'm usually all for deleting articles on insignificant martial arts, but this one might need some clarification. Buah pukul is well-known in Malaysia, at least in name. Its fame is, admittedly, mostly by virtue of being the mother of Lian padukan, which is one of Malaysia's four biggest silat schools. But even aside from lian padukan, buah pukul is the origin of various other styles. Among Malaysians who are familiar with silat, the distinct moves of buah pukul are easily recognized and even imitated. You could compare this to Wing Chun among people who are familiar with Chinese martial arts. Speaking of which, buah pukul is actually closely related to Wing Chun. The undeniable similarity between them despite being practiced independently of each other for an entire century is, in my opinion, quite noteworthy from a historical perspective because it clearly points to a common origin. Of course, the article will need to be improved, but I don't think deleting is the solution. Morinae (talk) 15:50, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That still all appears to be heresay. Where are the reliable sources? It may be best if this article is userfied. I'm not a big fan of keeping articles in mainspace hoping that some significant coverage will show up. Papaursa (talk) 20:13, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It has to be remembered that silat is still relatively obscure outside Southeast Asia. Even the most well-known styles like Perisai Diri and Seni Gayong get very little coverage in writing. And in their countries of origin, books on martial arts are rarely written. Buah pukul was mentioned in some Malay TV programs about martial arts, but that's about it as far as reliable sources go. But with that said, I do see your point and I frankly wouldn't see the article's deletion as a substantial loss. Morinae (talk) 07:50, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete I'll let the author's comments on the talk page of this discussion speak for themselves--"this art it hasn't been covered until now at all and that's we're attempting to do" and "If we could get another source to back us up online we would, but the point is this hasn't been made public at all in the west since its creation and the only source of notability we have is our own website." I think it's clear there's a COI, a lack of reliable sources, questionable notability, and that this falls under WP:NOT. Papaursa (talk) 23:58, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete No sources or supported claims of notability. Jakejr (talk) 01:53, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Does not meet V requirements which trump N and GNG for factual recognition, it is largely unsourced and must be addressed, but as a whole, it cannot be. The reference is trivial and doesn't back the material, calling it the Buah Pukul system. Userify is also an option at this point. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 23:08, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
When the author says there are no other sources, I don't see the point of userfying (is that a word?). Of course it could be recreated if sources become available. Jakejr (talk) 03:27, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was No consensus--Ymblanter (talk) 14:24, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable incident. Planes skid off runways and are written off regularly.

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Comment: No idea how binding this is (per Wikipedia:Ignore all rules), but as a hull-loss accident, the article passes the Wikipedia:Aircrash guideline.--FoxyOrange (talk) 20:39, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. As FoxyOrange notes, it passes WP:AIRCRASH, and at least warrants treatment in the articles about the airport and the airline. I'm not sure yet if it has sufficient coverage to warrant its own article per the criteria set forth there.--Arxiloxos (talk) 20:52, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment Hull loss means it is worthy of being mentioned in a aircraft, airline, or airport article. Standalone reads 'If an accident or incident meets the criteria for inclusion in an airport, airline or aircraft article above it MAY be notable enough for a stand-alone article if it also meets the criteria provided by the general notability guideline, a notability of events guideline and a guide on the use of news reports....William 21:58, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Question: As there isn't that much information about the accident (yet), could this rather be condensed and merged back into Nepal Airlines, at least for the time being? The infobox and victims' table don't add anything to the article.--FoxyOrange (talk) 12:29, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete First of all, I'm in agreement with FoxyOrange about the prematurity of this article. But I also see on the aircraft model page that there's a significant Twin Otter crash roughly every other year; very few of these incidents have articles, and compared with those listed, this one is pretty minor. Mangoe (talk) 12:42, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge a condensed summary, in line with the other accidents already listed there, to Nepal Airlines#Incidents and accidents. As Mangoe points out considering the type in question and the severity of the incident this doesn't merit its own article, but seems in line for coverage in the airline article per the accidents already mentioned there (unless, of course, those need trimming...). - The Bushranger One ping only 18:47, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect per The Bushranger, except that IMO there is already sufficient detail of the accident in the Nepal Airlines article. There have been 260 hull-losses of Twin Otters, including 18 in Nepal alone; and 36 worldwide in the last ten years - which is reflective of the conditions that the type is called upon to operate in. There is no indication that there is anything extraordinary about this crash and I would be surprised if there will be any more coverage after the brief flurry of "it happened" reportage that took place in media that have a vast amount of space to fill these days. YSSYguy (talk) 22:47, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Patcat88 (talk)
  • Keep -Krish Dulal (talk) 14:02, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment here in Australia, high-speed car chases and wheels-up landings by light aircraft in the USA, are shown on the news - so not exactly a yardstick for notability; and what can be said about the crash that isn't already covered in the airline article? YSSYguy (talk) 22:07, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Few participants, but it's worthwhile noting that the nay-sayers have arguments on their side; the lone yes vote offers only that "references can be improved", without actually doing so. Drmies (talk) 01:22, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable individual lacking ghits and Gnews of substance. Fails WP:BIO. reddogsix (talk) 19:57, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete This doesn't pass WP:GNG at all; look at the sources. The first is a webcast interview, not a viable source for establishing notability. The second is one single mention in an article on a film. Ok. The third is a discussion forum. Um, no. The fourth is ZoomInfo, big no. The fifth is vimeo...seriously, what the? The sixth citation is WIKIPEDIA itself. The seventh establishes that he won a single award one time; not enough to establish notability for a person. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:53, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, references can be improved, but a notable article should be deleted because it had not been improved. Faizan 07:48, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I know references can be improved for an article in theory. In this case, I don't think they can; I haven't been able to find any significant coverage, and that's why I think the subject fails the general notability guideline. MezzoMezzo (talk) 10:07, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Burzum#Discography. (non-admin closure) Michaelzeng7 (talk) 01:10, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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cannot establish this as Wikipedia-notable. e.g. not covered in several notable publications Lachlan Foley 09:58, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:14, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This band appears to fail point #1 of WP:BAND. After several searches, not finding any coverage in reliable sources. Northamerica1000(talk) 10:23, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Michig (talk) 06:22, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails PORNBIO, all noms are scene-related. All GNews/GBooks hits are trivial or spurious. NO RS bio content. Possibly speediable as repost of once-deleted article. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 15:41, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Britannica International School Shanghai. Redirecting seems to be the most clear and sensible option in this case. The article's only content cites this person as the headmaster of a school, so there is nothing explained in this article that isn't explained in the school article. (non-admin closure) Michaelzeng7 (talk) 01:15, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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fails WP:BIO. whilst the first source is indepth, there is no significant coverage of this individual . LibStar (talk) 16:32, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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