Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Plas morfa

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Llanon with no prejudice to restoring if new sources are found or there is a strong consensus to do so (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:20, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Plas morfa

Non-notable location. If the hotel itself passes notability requirements then that should have an article, but notability is not inherited; the rest of of the place is, well, a beach. Ironholds (talk) 17:23, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Llanon - I've already added the meat of the article there. Beaches are rarely notable on their own, even if they do have a nice hotel. Totnesmartin (talk) 21:15, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wales-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 05:41, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep. Clearly the nominator is not taking into account factors such as the fishing pools mentioned which can be expanded and have historical significance. No need to focus on one hotel. --Balloholic (talk) 16:33, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Llanon. The beach, currently part of the village, can easily be included there, including the information on said ancient fishing pools. Although I did not find any sources about these fishing pools. Merger should consider that. ^LeaveSleaves _talk 13:49, 26 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep I think many beaches will be notable on their own--they are essentially parks, and all state parks at least are considered notable --there being inevitably sufficient documentation. But I am not quite sure this beach is prominent enough for that. I am surprised that anyone should have written an article of this sort without giving sources, especially since at least part of the article is clearly asked on them. I added what English sources I could find quickly on google (there are also some in Welsh, but I was forced to ignore them) . The BBC source has information of the pools. DGG (talk) 22:46, 26 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Oh yes beaches can be notable on their own (at least I hope so, I wrote an article about one!), but as with anything else, there has to be enough citable material to make it worth having an article. nature reserve beaches, major tourist and historic beaches are all notable. The thing is, is this beach worth an article, or can it be combined with Llanon? The BBC page you mention is about Llanon, which seems to undermine the case for notability (nice find though). Totnesmartin (talk) 23:30, 26 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.