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Mahadeo Singh

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Subject doesn't meet the WP:GNG because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV. A redirect to India at the 1924 Summer Olympics#Athletics may be a suitable WP:ATD.. Let'srun (talk) 00:41, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Olympics, Sport of athletics, and India. Let'srun (talk) 00:41, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect: to India at the 1924 Olympics seems fine. I don't see coverage about this person. Oaktree b (talk) 01:02, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect as proposed. Athanelar (talk) 02:25, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to India at the 1924 Summer Olympics#Athletics – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 08:48, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect — BEFORE didn't uncover anything that would meet GNG. Redirect to India at the 1924 Summer Olympics#Athletics seems fine for now. EmilyR34 (talk) 05:57, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect – The correct target would be India at the 1924 Summer Olympics#Athletics. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:52, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kevin Lewis (runner)

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Don't see coverage that would meet WP:GNG, or achievements that would meet WP:NTRACK. BubbaJoe123456 (talk) 20:47, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Olympics, Sport of athletics, and Iowa. Shellwood (talk) 20:51, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe making the Olympics is a requirement for notability. If it was, many longstanding approved Wikipedia articles on track athletes would need to be deleted. Having a standard of Olympics or World team where only 3 per event qualify makes no sense relative to the massive volume of articles on athletes from other sports (soccer, American football, baseball, basketball, etc). There is a bias against track and field athletes and distance runners on Wikipedia due to the 4 year Olympic cycle and so few athletes reaching the Olympics (120 every 4 years). By contrast in any given season NFL season there are over 1,500 active players and most of them have a Wikipedia page. Tristatedist845 (talk) 21:18, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That might well be a fair criticism of the WP:NTRACK standard, but it doesn't change the fact that that's the standard currently in place, and I don't see Lewis meeting any of the criteria listed there, which are much broader than just those who made the Olympics. Please check those criteria - if he does in fact meet one or more of them, then I submitted this article to AfD in error, and will promptly withdraw it with my apologies. BubbaJoe123456 (talk) 21:27, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per BubbaJoe's analysis. Tioaeu8943 (talk) 23:23, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Deletesubject fails GNG also see WP:NOPAGE. There is the Aug. 5, 2016 profile in the Des Moines Register that would count to GNG and while you might count one of the Ottumwa Courier references as GNG, all we really have for an article is local runner does good (which in my mind does not quite meet our expectation of who is "worthy of notice"). What WP:NSPORT (and other SNGs) does/did a good job with is setting a threshold for when an athlete likely should be included because of their noteworthy achievements. And, I would posit that not every athlete that does gets coverage should have an article, even if there might be just enough coverage of their career as a prep or university athlete to meet the threshold WP:BASIC (See also the reasoning behind: An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing and WP:LPI) --Enos733 (talk) 07:35, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have added and sourced two results -Los Angeles Marathon and Indianapolis Monumental Marathon. Along with his Grandma's Marathon result which was already cited, Lewis has three top-10 finishes at notable national-class road races. Tristatedist845 (talk) 15:37, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Race results are nice, but they do not meet the standard expected under WP:GNG to assess notability. While 3 top-10 finishes means the subject is quite good, the standard we have is 10 top-3 finishes in major road races (see WP:NTRACK). I think we need at least one (if not two) more GNG sources to pass GNG. - Enos733 (talk) 16:14, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Minnesota Distance Elite#Personnel, where Mr. Lewis is mentioned. Fails WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Frank Anchor 14:48, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Changed to keep per the references added by WikiOriginal-9, which establish notability. However, if consensus is found to not keep I still prefer redirecting over deletion. Frank Anchor 20:50, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep passes GNG:

1. Mile posts: Kevin Lewis making adjustment in post-Hawkeye running life (Aug. 5, 2016) - The Des Moines Register

2. Former OHS star Kevin Lewis runs among Big Ten elite (Nov 11, 2014) - Ottumwa Courier

3. Hawkeyes' Lewis state's fastest at 5,000 (Feb. 26, 2015) - The Gazette

Also some shorter articles here ([1][2][3]). Also some stuff from his high school career like these ([4][5][6]) but those are YOUNGATH. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:11, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep agree with WikiOriginal-9 passes GNG. Subject's name is in the title of 3 different secondary publications from 3 different cities in Iowa (Des Moines, Ottumwa, Cedar Rapids). Multiple headlines from the Des Moines Register, the largest newspaper in Iowa by circulation. Corneliusjack88 — Preceding undated comment added 19:11, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I am striking my bolded !vote above since there is just enough coverage of the subject to squeak past GNG. My belief is that in general, if a subject is subject to an SNG, but does not meet the thresholds of that specific guideline, a GNG pass must be clear and obvious. The principle behind WP:N is that a subject must be worthy of note. Without any other criteria, we rely on reporting/reports to determine notability. But within some fields, we have other methods to evaluate real-world accomplishments and determine when an article "should be written."

In this case, we have an accomplished athlete, who did not meet any criteria listed in WP:NTRACK. He has some coverage in local press, but no coverage beyond his state. At best, the subject is a low-profile individual and I don't think there will be any more coverage of his athletic career. So, even if this may technically pass GNG, I am not certain if there should be a stand alone article (with thanks to FrankArcher for finding an appropriate redirect target). --Enos733 (talk) 00:07, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – Per new sources found. Svartner (talk) 12:37, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Čedo Nikolovski

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Fails WP:GNG; I don't even know which language of coverage is expected. Redirect to Yugoslavia at the 1988 Summer Olympics#Wrestling, where his name is mentioned. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:48, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Olympics, Wrestling, and Yugoslavia. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:48, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Re: language, probably Macedonian Geschichte (talk) 19:55, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Most likely (due to his surname), but we can't assume that to be the case. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:53, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Of course we can assume that. It even turned out to be the case. Geschichte (talk) 00:41, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep, won a Lifetime Achievement Award from the Agency for Youth and Sports as a "legendary wrestler, coach and sports worker in wrestling receives an award for his great contribution to the development of sports". [7] A good indicator of notability in his country, which indeed turned out to be Macedonia. The Sports-Reference link also corroborates multiple and stable appearannces on the world scene. Geschichte (talk) 20:01, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per Geschichte. And I'll add that if the nominator admits they have no idea how to search for sources on the subject, I don't think they should be nominating the subject for deletion in the first place. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:29, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I AM the nominator, and my pronouns are she/her. Yup, when it comes to AfD about someone from former countries (e.g. Soviet Union and Yugoslavia), I obviously didn't even know what language is expected. Also, one source is not enough for BLP. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:34, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's my point – if you don't even know what language to search, how can you do an adequate WP:BEFORE? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:47, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We have more than one source, it's significant coverage we ideally need more of. But I would argue the subject meets WP:ANYBIO. Geschichte (talk) 08:05, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Cooke (swimmer)

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Mass-created WP:LUGSTUB that fails WP:NSPORTS due to a lack of significant coverage in reliable, independent sources.

The sourcing is as follows:

1) Olympedia. Not SIGCOV. Not a WP:SPORTSBASIC-compliant source since it covers every Olympian who ever lived (and some who didn't). Not independent since it is owned by the IOC.

2) Sports-reference.com, which is to say Olympedia.

3) A literal letter written by Cooke to the Australian Star. Not independent.

4) A single-paragraph news story about Cooke's schoolboy career. Not WP:SIGCOV. See also WP:YOUNGATH which this fails since it is routine. It being in the "latest Telegrams" section also raises the question of whether it is actually being reported or fact-checked in anyway by the no-doubt illustrious newspaper (according to the front page "Circulation: FOUR FIGURES") in which it is published or is simply a telegram they received and have re-printed.

5) A single-paragraph news-story totalling 79 words. Not WP:SIGCOV.

None of the above indicates notability under WP:NSPORTS. FOARP (talk) 14:09, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Olympics, and Australia. jolielover♥talk 14:12, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect: to the 1908 Olympics article, although I don't see one specific for the Australian team. I find no sourcing otherwise, rest is as explained by the nom. Oaktree b (talk) 14:44, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's Australasia at the 1908 Summer Olympics. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 14:51, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Australasia at the 1908 Summer Olympics#Swimming per nom. lp0 on fire () 15:05, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect: The article does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NSPORTS for a standalone biography, all sourcing is routine, trivial, non-independent, or database style better redirect to Australasia at the 1908 Summer Olympics. Thilio^{R O B O T🤖 talk} 15:51, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Ref 4 isn't from his schoolboy career. It's from 1909 after he had already been to the Olympics. That ref supports the part of the Wikipedia article that says "In 1909 after returning from London, he gave up competitive swimming to become a farmer in Karangi, New South Wales." ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:22, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK, but it's citing his main achievements as having been in his school years. FOARP (talk) 21:13, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The first thing it lists after his Olympics participation is "obtained fourth place in the 100 yards championship in England." That doesn't sound like a school-level competition. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 21:28, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"He is the holder of the Kieran Memorial Gold Medal, 200 yds ; North Sydney 100yds. Championship, 62 2-5sec. ; Fort-street Public School Carnival, 100yds, 61 3-5sec. ; All Schools Carnival, 100yds. Handicap— won his heat in 61 2-5sec., and in final 60 2-5sec., though only , second in race giving limit man 9secs. This race, no doubt, gave him the title of Schoolboy Champion of Australasia, if not the world." FOARP (talk) 21:40, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's just part of the article. That doesn't discredit the whole thing. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 15:39, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Australasia at the 1908 Summer Olympics#Swimming per lp0 on fire. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:34, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep ~~[8][9] Good enough for me for this Olympian.~~ Ref 4 and 5 listed above are good enough for me for this Olympian. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 15:44, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- There, I revised it even though I don't think I needed to. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:21, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep: With the sources mentioned by WikiOriginal-9, this subject meets the WP:GNG, albeit weakly, and unlike many other LUGSTUBS, has multiple pieces of secondary coverage included. Let'srun (talk) 22:54, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Redirect or keep?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 01:24, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect. Coverage is limited to insignificant human interest stories of indeterminate provenance (at least one is likely a non-independent notice) in "newspapers" of questionable reliability. JoelleJay (talk) 18:23, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Grafton Argus and Clarence River General Advertiser and The Evening News (Sydney) aren't newspapers? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I honestly completely don't understand you posting links to sources that have already been discussed, as if they were newly-found sources.

The Grafton Argus ("Circulation: FOUR FIGURES") is discussed above. It's a telegram they, a small-town paper, received - not something they've done any fact-checking on - most of which is spent discussing his school career.

The Sydney Evening news piece is a single paragraph summing 79 words (count 'em: "E. J. L. Cooke, the North Sydney sprint champion, is leaving for England within a few days to take part in the 'world's swimming championships, to compete for the King's Cup life-saving competition, to be held in London Iri July next. He has entered for the 100 and 400 metres. 290 metres (breast stroke), and 100 metres (back stroke), and teams' race. Cooke, Tartakover, Beaurepaire, and Springfield will probably represent Australia. He has also entered for several English championships"). How is that SIGCOV?

Peel it all back and we're ultimately still dealing with the same "all Olympians are notable" proposition that has been rejected multiple times in RFCs. This was a WP:LUGSTUB so this article has already been removed from mainspace by consensus with a close that said it should only be brought back to mainspace if they believe "they have improved a given specific article enough to pass Wikipedia:Notability". It's therefore not enough to say it might pass WP:N if more sources are found: they need to be found for the the article to be kept. Nothing that has been added since the WP:LUGSTUB RFC has changed the fact that this is not a WP:N pass. FOARP (talk) 09:23, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep Given he was one of just five Olympians from Australia and New Zealand this should be kept. The Grafton newspaper and the Sydney newspaper are both reliable. The only issue is wider coverage of his actual effort, but being an Olympian should be enough for that time. Curly Suix (talk) 07:38, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Curly Suix, simply "being an Olympian" has been deprecated as a reason to have an article; the subjects are now required to meet GNG, which means multiple sources providing that "wider coverage of his actual effort". JoelleJay (talk) 19:50, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep - per the coverage already mentioned above. It puts this article over the WP:GNG threshold.BabbaQ (talk) 08:09, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Multiple instances of SIGCOV are needed. FOARP (talk) 20:38, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep, coverage could be better but seems to have been a reasonably well-known athlete during his (brief) career. This collage of Australian sporting personalities where he is given equal billing with Warwick Armstrong and Snowy Baker weighs in favour of his notability. I T B F 📢 13:14, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It meets GNG even if being an Olympian doesn't give him the edge. MelbourneIdentity (talk) 00:18, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Seems like it's keep or redirect, but which? Given the number of "weak" keeps in the mix, this risks running into no consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 06:23, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]