Talk:Voyage to the Blue Planet/GA1

GA review

Passed. Leafy46 (talk) 21:35, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator: JJonahJackalope (talk · contribs) 21:18, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Leafy46 (talk · contribs) 20:41, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take on this article for the October backlog drive which started today. As a disclaimer, I'm not *too* familiar with tour articles, so I'll be basing a lot of my review on other GA'd articles. With that out of the way, expect preliminary comments within 24 hours, and a finished review within a week :)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Quickfail checks

Article looks pretty solid from a first glance
Earwig shows a 45.9% similarity, indicating "violation possible". There is indeed a touch of overquoting in the Critical Reception section — and we'll cross that bridge when we get there — however this high percentage mostly seems to be because from the setlist and is thus fine.
No cleanup banners on the page
The article is stable
No previous GA review to speak of

Media check

File:Voyage to the Blue Planet poster.jpg — Y Looks good! I'd add some alt text, but given that this poster is primarily decorative, I don't think it's strictly necessary.
File:Rivers Cuomo.jpg — Y Properly tagged and relevant. I'm kinda surprised that this article doesn't have an image of Cuomo/the band performing during the tour (as that would be *more* relevant), but if one doesn't exist then so be it.

Spotcheck

All citation numbers are based on this version of the page.

What makes The Mac Weekly (Citation #19) worthy of inclusion, when there are professional sources which serves its same role in the article? This doesn't seem to be a particularly noteworthy student newspaper (since it doesn't have its own Wikipedia article), and as far as I can tell neither of this article's authors have any journalistic experience outside of this paper. See WP:UNIGUIDE#Reliable sources.
- I do not feel that the inclusion of this source explicitly violates any of the guidelines present in WP:UNIGUIDE#Reliable sources, and it's use in the article was as a noncontroversial way to demonstrate the point that the tour received positive reviews. While this point is further reinforced by other sources that are discussed further in that section of the article, I do not feel that the inclusion of this source detracts from the article. However, if you feel that the article would benefit from the source's removal, I would not be opposed. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 00:50, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - Fair enough. I'm not going to fail the GA over the inclusion of one source, but it just strikes me as being significantly weaker than the other ones included.
Citation 1 — ? The content checks out, but I'm a bit skeptical about the source itself (as Collider was acquired by Valnet in 2020, and this article was written after that point; see WP:VALNET). I think it's okay given that this isn't being used for biographical details, but I'd still request that a search for a more reliable source be undertaken to be safe.
- I am aware of the issues present with Valnet-owned media, but I felt that the use of the Collider article was justified based on a few factors. The interview discussed in this article was conducted between the band members and a member of the site's staff, presents non-controversial biographical information, and is the earliest source I could find where the band discussed what would eventually become the concert tour. Also, I'm not sure of the exact reason behind this, but Collider was not specifically mentioned in the WP:Valnet discussion. If you feel that the source should be replaced, however, I can try to find another source that discusses the interview, though the removal of this source may result in the entire first paragraph of the "Background and development" section being either deleted or significantly altered. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 00:50, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - That's fine, so long as you're sure that this is the earliest mention of what became this tour.
    - Based on the searching I did when writing this article, this was the earliest mention I could find. I am unsure if it is the definitive earliest mention (there may have been another interview or news article that hasn't been digitized or archived or whatnot), but most of the other sites that discussed the event only did so following the February 2024 Facebook post by the band. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 18:22, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Citation 5 — Y All uses check out
Citation 12 — ? Mostly checks out. The source technically doesn't state that the red planets showed up for the Red Album songs, only for "Troublemaker". The source also doesn't say that the concert ended with "Only in Dreams", just that "Cuomo [..] seemed to step away from the space-themed scripted repartee of the show" during it.
- Concerning the Red Album part, I rephrased this section to make it more clear that the article only specifies that red planets appeared during "Troublemaker". For the "Only in Dreams" part, I have swapped the reference with one that explicitly states that the concert ended with that song. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 00:50, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Citation 15 — ? Again, mostly checks out. However, it's unclear whether or not the battle with the "Weezoids" happens before or after the ship landed on the Blue Planet. From my reading of the source, it seems like that battle occurred, then the ship landed, then the band re-took the stage, and then began their playthrough of the Blue Album. Let me know if you think otherwise.
- From my reading, it sounds like the authors are saying that the battle and the "Weezoids" appearance simply occurred as part of the final segment of the show, without specifying exactly when it occurred with regards to the songs. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 00:50, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'll give the concert film a watch later to see whether that gives the position of this reveal (which is allowed without citation per WP:PLOTREF).
Citation 20 — Y All uses check out
Citation 23 — Y Good

@Leafy46:, just wanted to reach out to let you know that I have made some edits to the article to address some of the points you raised in your review! If you have any further questions, comments, or concerns, please feel free to reach out. Regards, -JJonahJackalope (talk) 00:50, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@JJonahJackalope: Thanks for getting back to me! I've responded above, though I'm overall satisfied with your responses to my comments. I'll finish things off with a prose review in the near future. Leafy46 (talk) 16:41, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Prose checks

Everything here is a suggestion, feel free to apply those which you agree with. I've also made a few, more minor copyedits on my own in this edit; generally, my edits concerned wording and what I saw as WP:OVERLINK. Feel free to undo the edits of mine you disagree with.

Lead

I've done a major restructuring of this section, mostly to put events in a generally-chronological order. Let me know what you think.
- The restructuring is fine by me. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 18:22, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would also add a line in about the concert film, to ensure that the lead covers every topic in the article.
- I added a sentence regarding the concert film. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 18:22, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Background and development

Does "now known as the "Voyage to the Blue Planet" " imply that the tour previously had a different official name? If so, that should be stated in the article.
- The phrasing is a bit odd, but I phrased the sentence in that way to distinguish the name "Voyage to the Blue Planet" from "Blue Voyage", which was the phrasing used in several sources after the February 2024 Facebook post by the band to describe the expected upcoming tour. Let me know what changes you would recommend to help properly address this. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 18:22, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - I've made a change which I find a little clearer, but feel free to re-word it some other way if you can think of something better!
I would add a date for the anniversary concert they performed. As a reader, I would assume that it was in May to coincide with the album's release, when in reality it happened in March.
- Added the date to the sentence that discusses the anniversary concert, per your suggestion. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 18:22, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Concert synopsis

I would add a bit of context about Bokkus either in this section or the background section, given that the character seems to have quite a bit of history in the band's lore.
- I created a new Notes section and included a footnote at the first mention of Bokkus in the article that gives more background on the character and its history with the band. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 18:22, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Putting songs in parentheses like that gives the impression that those were the only songs from the album played during the concert, imo. I'd remove them, especially since the songs are all listed in the 'Track listing' section, or at least add a qualifier like "such as" to them.
- I rephrased this section of the concert synopsis to remove the parentheses altogether. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 18:22, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While the Harvard Crimson calls the aliens "Weezoids", both Inverse and The Mac Weekly calls them "Weezeroids". I would mention this discrepancy in a note, unless some more-reliable source (or the band themselves) have clarified which of the spellings is correct.
- I have changed the word in the article from "Weezoids" to "Weezeroids" and have added a footnote to this section to explain the discrepancy. Additionally (as stated in the footnote), the term used by the band during their Boston performance is "Weezeroid" (as seen in the concert film around the 1:06 mark). -JJonahJackalope (talk) 18:22, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Critical reception

As previously mentioned, this section contains quite a bit of WP:OVERQUOTE. The opinions of multiple reviewers (particularly Gibbs of The Tennessean and Sullivan of The Boston Globe) are being used as a replacement for exposition, and should be paraphrased.
- I rephrased this section to remove some of the quotations (especially from Sullivan). -JJonahJackalope (talk) 18:22, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't believe that Weezer's opinion of their own show belongs in this section, given that it's titled *Critical* reception. I'd move it to the Background section.
- I moved this sentence to the end of the background section and rephrased the following sentence regarding the Bumbershoot festival. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 18:22, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rest of the article

I would suggest consolidating sources #7 (WSUE) and #24 (The Desert Sun), since they are essentially two different sources saying the exact same thing as far as I can tell.
- I have deleted reference #24 (The Desert Sun) and replaced its one instance in the article with Reference #7 (WSUE). While both of the articles deal with the same material (the announcement of the Palm Desert show to the tour), only the WSUE article explicitly states that the new show will be the last for the tour. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 18:22, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at other concert articles, the only thing which I can see is missing is any detail about this concert's commercial performance. If you could ensure that there are truly no sources whatsoever talking about the revenue of this concert as a whole or individual shows, that'd be great.
- Unfortunately, I was unable to find any information concerning the commercial performance of either this tour, any of the specific shows, or the concert film. I know that many existing concert tour GAs present that information, but I was unable to find data of that nature during my research for this article. If any reputable sources are found that contain this information, or even an estimate, I will add that to the article. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 18:22, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Similarly, I was unable to find any information on the attendance figures for any of the shows, which was another piece of information I would have loved to have included in the article but am simply unable to until that information is found in a good source. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 18:22, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@JJonahJackalope: Right, that's the review all done! I'll put the article on hold until all points are addressed. Let me know when you've completed everything. Leafy46 (talk) 04:00, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Leafy46:, just wanted to ping you to let you know that I have made some edits to the article to address the points you raised in your review here! Thanks again for initiating this review, and on a personal note, I'll say that this has been one of the more fun GAs I've done. (I can't think of too many other articles where I've had to add a footnote explaining an alien monster created by Weezer lol). If you have any further questions, comments, or concerns regarding this article, please feel free to reach out. Regards, -JJonahJackalope (talk) 18:22, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@JJonahJackalope: I'm satisfied with the changes made, and am happy to pass this article under the GA criteria! It was a joy for me too, I love the Blue Album but didn't think I'd ever have the opportunity to edit anything related to it since the album is so old. On a separate note, this article qualifies for Minimalist under Bilorv's challenges; not sure if you're interested in it at all, but I'd be remiss to not point that fact out. Thank you for your hard work on this article :) Leafy46 (talk) 21:35, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.