User talk:TruthHistorian

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Recent Edits

WP is not a platform for POV's or ideology; I appreciate you may be trying to be constructive but there is a certain manual of style and neutral approach to article writing that we try to employ. I suggest you discuss your changes on the relevant talk pages (for example; capitalisation of Him, which is a problematic change) --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk) 18:51, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

July 2010

Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit that you made to the page User:Tmorton166 has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Please use the sandbox for testing any edits; if you believe the edit was constructive, please ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing for further information. Thank you. Christian75 (talk) 19:14, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Wotanism. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Errant Tmorton166^(Talk) 19:22, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have been blocked from editing in all manners(mainly small edits) since i joined this site. I read the page for newbies and it warned there were many hostile mods that bite too much. It seems that all i have met are of this sort so far and that was an extreme understatement. I am guessing you want to block me anyways for some resson so you might as well do your dirty deed now since i will try to edit yet again and most likely against how you would wish i do so. maybe you guys are the odd ones. I can only hope so. How do you wish I edit from now on so that I don't really make any changes at all which seems to be against the whole point of the this site? Other wise call it finished and print it all up in an encylopedia book like Funk & Wagnalls used after being also severely censored...

I'd much prefer not to see you get blocked. But the edits you made, and I (and others) reverted, have issues in terms of neutrality and sourcing. The changes you want to see in an article are not always the ones that work in the context of an Encyclopedia. At such times it is up to the consensus of the group to decide on style and content; as I suggested previously you could discuss your proposed changes on the talk page. --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk) 20:04, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)Tmorton166 is not one of those hostile mods. You brought this on yourself by not assuming good faith, and by being uncivil. If you want to accuse Tmorton of biting you, go to WP:Wikiquette alerts and file a report. If you want to avoid trouble, you will want to review WP:CIVIL (be nice to people, don't call them nazis, don't vandalize their user pages), WP:NPOV (don't push an agenda), WP:CITE (cite your reliable sources with <ref>references tags like this</ref>). Ian.thomson (talk) 20:05, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You are so kind. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways. I will cite my every edit (even grammatical) til the cows come home. (BTW can I use you as a source since you seem to think you know everything?)

If you don't like WP:CITE, you don't have to edit. We have the guideline for citing sources because no editor here knows everything. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:33, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ANI

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk) 19:30, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the bite. Are you the WP nazi to all new comers?

Thanks for the personal attack. No user has brought up WP:BITE yet, which seems to indicate past familiarity. Tmorton166 tried to explain one of the basic rules of this site in a calm and polite fashion (at no point biting), and you rebuffed and attacked him. Great job. Ian.thomson (talk) 19:48, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add unsourced or original content, as you did to Wotanism. Doing so violates Wikipedia's verifiability policy. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Ian.thomson (talk) 19:44, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is the final warning you will receive regarding your disruptive comments.
If you continue to make personal attacks on other people as you did at User talk:TruthHistorian, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Ian.thomson (talk) 19:45, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Most of my edits were small and grammatical,and it seems to me that you will bite again even if I source which I WILL! basically, you're saying... PLEASE DO Not PARTICIPATE

Identifying Lucifer with Odin? That's not grammar, that's an opinion being pushed as fact. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:05, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

odin = zeus = shiva= cernunnos = kulkulkan = lucifer all occultists know this but i will cite it from now on

From your personal religion's point of view, that may be the case. But, from a mythographical perspective, from an anthropological perspective, from a linguistic perspective, basically, from all secular scholarly perspectives, that's not the case. Heck, even a lot of occultists would raise an eyebrow at your throwing Zeus and Shiva in the same lot. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:32, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It;s hard to cite as well; most of the theories/similarities are in the form of blogs and forum posts - there is little critical analysis of the theory of Odin = Lucifer. Otherwise it would be nice to have a small section in the article about occultist theories --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk) 20:35, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm guessing there's probably something in some book by some quasi-notable Theosophical figure, or maybe Anthroposophical writer (maybe not Steiner, but someone). Ian.thomson (talk) 20:44, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Changing 'distinctly different' to 'similar' is not a small or grammatical edit. It is also not a 'Minor' edit, please do not mark edits as minor unless they are formatting, spelling, etc. Dougweller (talk) 20:07, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also, could you please point out where Tmorton has bitten you? Just to make sure you're not just overreacting to being corrected, instead of going "oh, well, lessee how things work on this site, then." We're not saying you can't participate. If you cite a reliable source for your edits, there isn't much we can do. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:09, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

cite away i will then... anything else I need to know so i don't get censored again. The tmorton dude just told me not to capitalize H's then has followed and removed any edit I make since then. What if the "h" in question just happens to land at the beginning of a sentence?

Capitalizing H in "his" as in Jesus is pushing for the idea that he is divine (that's not grammar, that's evangelism), which does go against the neutral point of view guidelines. Also, keeping this place from being overrun by POV pushers is not censorship, it prevents censorship because it prevents one POV from dominating another. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:32, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It also contravenes the guidelines in our manual of style—see the fourth bulleted item at WP:MOS#Religions, deities, philosophies, doctrines, and their adherents. Deor (talk) 21:10, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]