Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rusty Hicks

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The result was keep. Consensus appears to be that while Hicks doesn't meet NPOL by virtue of position, he is otherwise notable Star Mississippi 01:32, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rusty Hicks

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Does not pass WP:NPOL as he hasn't held state-wide public office, at the very least. Bedivere (talk) 21:52, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and California. Shellwood (talk) 22:29, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep does not need to meet NPOL needs to meet WP:GNG which he does. Andre🚐 22:44, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

State political party chairs most certainly do need to meet NPOL. Bearcat (talk) 18:36, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

They can meet the test set forth in NPOL or they can meet GNG, please read it more carefully. Technically, meeting GNG meets NPOL, if you want to quibble on semantics. Andre🚐 23:00, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:43, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Because he passes WP:GNG. In addition to what is already cited in the article, also more here:

Orlov, R. (2014, Nov 18). L.A. county federation of labor picks rusty hicks as new leader. Press - Telegram Retrieved from https://www.proquest.com/newspapers/l-county-federation-labor-picks-rusty-hicks-as/docview/1626376230/se-2 CT55555(talk) 05:12, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. State chairs do not meet NPOL and this should be a bundled nomination with other chairs who also do not meet NPOL.--Mpen320 (talk) 04:13, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. State-level political party chair is not a level of office that confers a free pass over WP:NPOL just because the person exists — and contrary to the above assertion, NPOL is the rule that a state-level political party chair would have to pass — but this is referenced mostly to primary sources (his own employers, his own alma maters) that aren't support for notability at all, with what's left for real media coverage not being sufficient in number, geographic range or depth to get him over WP:GNG in lieu. Bearcat (talk) 12:28, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the delete contributions above, but no subject that satisfies BASIC/GNG is also is "required" to pass NPOL; no keep contribution is asserting presumed notability on the basis of Hicks being a state party chair. There's substnatial, independent, reliable source coverage of Hicks as a trade unionist alone that satisfies the GNG (some examples among many available: Fresno Bee, LA Times, LA Times LA Times). Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 22:32, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - while a state chairperson is not automatically notable, they can be shown to be so. Bearian (talk) 19:38, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as stated, passing WP:NPOL is not cumulative with passing WP:GNG. The subject here clearly passes GNG (see LA Times and LA Sentinel coverage) so NPOL doesn't even need to be looked at. Rkieferbaum (talk) 19:28, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.