Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Start All Over
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep. This song may or may not meet the standards of WP:MUSIC, since they aren't specific as to how high a song must rank before it 'charts'. Since the guideline is not specific, we should follow the wishes of the AfD voters, who lean toward Keep. EdJohnston (talk) 04:04, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Non-notable song, poorly referenced, didn't chart very well
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. —Cliff smith talk 18:16, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep A footnote song, but given MC's massive popularity and the video made for it, seems notable to me. Brianyoumans (talk) 17:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to patent album Insuficient information to has a separated article, not referenced informations and didn't chart very well...It not seems notable to me. Voices4ever 14:48, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete or redirect the song isn't notable CloversMallRat (talk) 21:51, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, meets WP:MUSIC#Songs. It charted and it's referenced. Esradekan Gibb "Talk" 01:32, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete The record did not chart on Mediabase, BDS, or R&R charts, which are the standards for the phrase "charting". --Winger84 (talk) 22:36, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Can I direct you to WP:CHART. The Australian ARIA chart is one of the ones mentioned. Esradekan Gibb "Talk" 01:25, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I am aware of the standards set forth by WP:CHART. However, as provided in the article, the record did not even "chart" on that chart, as it is generally accepted in the industry that for a record to officially "chart," it must reach 40 or higher. As provided in the article, this record peaked at 41 on ARIA. --Winger84 (talk) 16:14, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Do you have a wikipedia reference for that "must reach 40 or higher" bit, just so I can update my music cheat sheet links on my user page. Esradekan Gibb "Talk" 08:24, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I am aware of the standards set forth by WP:CHART. However, as provided in the article, the record did not even "chart" on that chart, as it is generally accepted in the industry that for a record to officially "chart," it must reach 40 or higher. As provided in the article, this record peaked at 41 on ARIA. --Winger84 (talk) 16:14, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Has charted on the Billboard Hot 100 (#68, Billboard - Miley Cyrus artist chart history). Though this may be a low position, the Billboard Hot 100 is a notable chart. Holiday56 (talk) 08:37, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Looks to be an official single and has charted in the US and Australia, hence it is notable. --Lakeyboy (talk) 12:04, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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