Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vel Soap

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.‎

The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) SSTflyer 17:10, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Vel Soap

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Non-notable product lacks references. damiens.rf 08:06, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

• speedy keep au contraire, very notable brand, maybe there aren't many articles or reports about it written, but if you click on the newspaper link up here you will notice that, at least, the brand was advertised in many newspapers over the years and that's not including spanish newspapers. also i recommend looking for detergente vel or Vel Rosita, Vel Rosa, and you will get many links too.Antonio Mr. Hot Body Martin (digan lo que digan!!) 09:49, May 12, 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Latin America-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 20:45, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of South America-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 20:45, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

• Delete, does not meet the general notability guidelines. As the article creator himself acknowledges, all there is, is advertising. YSSYguy (talk) 21:11, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
• Again, speedy keep. Please do your research before putting articles for deletion just because you do not know about the subject. Even if most information available now is on selling vehicles, that still shows notability. Count the links where "Vel Rosita" or "Detergente Vel" is mentioned and you will see how famous this brand was. And please don't say it's only 3 (or 5, or 10 for that matter) links because we know better than that. At least in Latin America Vel was a huge product once and, it seems, in the United States too as it was sold at major stores at a time. Antonio El Super Detergente Martin (Diganme) 23:52, May 12, 2016 (UTC)

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— Duplicate vote: AntonioMartin (talk • contribs) has already cast a vote above.

No, what shows notability is in-depth discussion of the subject in reliable independent sources. Was there a product recall? Was there independent scientific research into the product? Was the product discussed in detail in Soaps Monthly or Surfactants Now or Detergents Digest? All you have done so far is prove that it existed, and that is not enough in the context of Wikipedia. YSSYguy (talk) 23:59, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

• Struck duplicate !vote above, only one allowed, but feel free to comment all you'd like. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:23, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

• Keep. Notable product that survived for 60+ years in major markets and still is sold in at least the Danish market. I've added sources, subject meets WP:GNG, and can be expanded. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 17:01, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:23, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

The sources added by Sam Sailor are the manufacturer itself; four words ("Vel", "Colgate-Palmolive" and "Denmark") in a Table in the book by Kuo-Yann Lai; and a transcript of a commercial advertising the subject with two passing mentions in the book by Jim Cox. Contrary to his assertion, none of these result in the subject passing the GNG. YSSYguy (talk) 07:42, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

• Keep - The oxford press reference is sufficient claim to notability for me. Fieari (talk) 05:01, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

The entire coverage of the subject in the Oxford Press book amounts to nine words. That is not significant coverage. YSSYguy (talk) 07:23, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

• Keep as this seems convincing enough. SwisterTwister talk 06:18, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

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