Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Cirxt0/sandbox
Yet another sandbox copy of List of presidents of the United States, again fictionalized to provide a very different lists of presidents than the United States has actually had in reality. This one kind of flips back and forth between real presidents and pretend ones up until JFK, at which point it wanders completely off into science fiction never to return: JFK doesn't die in office and stays president until 1969, whereupon his successor is RFK, and is then followed by Walter Mondale, Teddy Kennedy, Gary Hart, Jesse Jackson, Ralph Nader, Anita Hill, John McCain, Bernie Sanders, Julian Castro and an incumbent Alexandria Ocasio Cortez. And naturally, as is so often the case with this sort of crap, it was left in all of the real article's categories for public consumption, which is an absolute no-no.
As always, sandbox is not a free playground to just write any bullshit you want to for the lulz -- it's for working on stuff that's meant to be returned to mainspace when you're done, which obviously this can't be. And as always, WP:BLP applies to all pages in Wikipedia, not just to mainspace content: anything that would be false information about a living person in a mainspace article, such as claiming that they had been president of the United States when they hadn't, is still false information about a living person in userspace too. Bearcat (talk) 17:57, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
- Speedy delete as obvious hoax (fictional timeline). User:Cirxt0 is welcome to write about this stuff, but they shouldn't expect Wikipedia to host it. BusterD (talk) 18:10, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
- Delete due to multiple biographies of living persons violations. The list is contrary to fact about multiple living persons whose names and images are used. There are other reasons to delete, but when I see one of these lists of Presidents, I first look for and find BLP violations. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:49, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
- Speedy delete as an obvious hoax per BusterD. Speaking of which: @BusterD, might I ask why you haven't done so yourself? Chess enjoyer (talk) 21:32, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
- In some cases, a deletion discussion is useful 1) to gain a wider understanding of community feeling, and 2) confirm the issues described in the context of a formal discussion. Bearcat is perfectly capable, empowered, and trusted by the community to make such speedy deletions themself. Why did they not speedy the page themself? They chose not to tag or delete, but instead to start a discussion; their reasons are on the record above. My assertion is one of many assertions here validating their nomination. This is a case where the new WP:U6 and WP:U7 speedy tags might be applied. BusterD (talk) 12:49, 8 December 2025 (UTC)
- @BusterD: Okay. that makes sense to me
Self-trout and let's just forget that I didn't know Bearcat was an admin... But wouldn't we have to wait 6 months to use U6/U7? Chess enjoyer (talk) 15:54, 8 December 2025 (UTC)
- D'oh! On review you're correct. I misremembered this as an older draft. BusterD (talk) 16:26, 8 December 2025 (UTC)
- @BusterD: Okay. that makes sense to me
- In some cases, a deletion discussion is useful 1) to gain a wider understanding of community feeling, and 2) confirm the issues described in the context of a formal discussion. Bearcat is perfectly capable, empowered, and trusted by the community to make such speedy deletions themself. Why did they not speedy the page themself? They chose not to tag or delete, but instead to start a discussion; their reasons are on the record above. My assertion is one of many assertions here validating their nomination. This is a case where the new WP:U6 and WP:U7 speedy tags might be applied. BusterD (talk) 12:49, 8 December 2025 (UTC)
- delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 01:20, 8 December 2025 (UTC)
- Delete This a weird alt history project. Felicia (talk) 18:00, 8 December 2025 (UTC)
- Delete due to possibility of confusion. How this differs from other user sandboxes where I often !vote keep is that this one is a blatant alternate-universe version of an actual article, has misinformation/BLP issues, and has been around for over a week, so that the user has likely gained whatever evanescent but plausible benefit they might have sought from it in practicing their editing in their sandbox. Martinp (talk) 03:11, 9 December 2025 (UTC)
- Strong Delete. Seriously, these POTUS-related alt-history lists are becoming tiresome. How many of them are actually out there? — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 05:53, 10 December 2025 (UTC)