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The result of the discussion was keep. Izno (talk) 23:53, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
Unused route template. Gonnym (talk) 13:44, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: restored to parent article. Useddenim (talk) 18:54, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment The template was removed from the parent article with the comment "i removed the rtd because it's so out of date that it's misleading". So the questiun is now: is this template reliable and accurate? The Banner talk 01:28, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- @The Banner: If JacobTheRox were to indicate exactly what is wrong and needs updating I would be happy to make the needed revisions. Useddenim (talk) 04:11, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- (see message on User talk:Useddenim) – JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 22:21, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- @The Banner: If JacobTheRox were to indicate exactly what is wrong and needs updating I would be happy to make the needed revisions. Useddenim (talk) 04:11, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:40, 17 July 2025 (UTC)- Comment: The diagram has been updated. Useddenim (talk) 12:52, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 23:02, 24 July 2025 (UTC) - Withdraw as now used and issue with Jacob seems to have been resolved. Gonnym (talk) 14:31, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Pppery (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 07:08, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
Stale sandbox2 which hasn't been edited in 12 years. There is no reason to keep multiple /sandbox versions when they aren't actively worked on. Gonnym (talk) 11:59, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to /sandbox. If anyone wants to see what was in this sandbox because they are looking at the discussion that prompted its creation, they will be able to look at the page's history. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:39, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:37, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:19, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
No transclusions or documentation. Wikipedia:WikiProject OpenStreetMap is apparently defunct. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:12, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. The project is defunct so no potential usage. Gonnym (talk) 14:32, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 08:35, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 03:01, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 August 7. (non-admin closure) Left guide (talk) 14:04, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:21, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- Template:DPRK-PRK (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links from discussions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:49, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:35, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 03:03, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:21, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links from discussions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:49, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:35, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 03:03, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:23, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
Navbox with no transclusions and no main article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:49, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Has pages that it could be used on, but I'm in an opinion that if the creator of a navigation template didn't take the time to add it to articles, there is no reason to attempt to save it. Gonnym (talk) 14:35, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:35, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 03:03, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:24, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links from discussions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:46, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, I have no idea why this would need to be split into a template anyway. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 19:53, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 17:34, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete simply not needed. GiantSnowman 17:35, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 08:36, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:45, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete – Per above. Svartner (talk) 06:52, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 August 11. Izno (talk) 23:10, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:25, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links from discussions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:42, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Has pages that it could be used on, but I'm in an opinion that if the creator of a navigation template didn't take the time to add it to articles, there is no reason to attempt to save it. Gonnym (talk) 14:36, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was keep. ✗plicit 14:26, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- Template:Walt Simonson (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
No transclusions or incoming links from discussions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:41, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Seems the creator added it to pages after this was sent to TfD. Gonnym (talk) 14:37, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was keep. ✗plicit 14:26, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- Template:Louise Simonson (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
No transclusions or incoming links from discussions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:41, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Seems the creator added it to pages after this was sent to TfD. Gonnym (talk) 14:38, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was keep. ✗plicit 14:26, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- Template:Dave Cockrum (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
No transclusions or incoming links from discussions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:41, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Seems the creator added it to pages after this was sent to TfD. Gonnym (talk) 14:38, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:27, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
No transclusions, documentation, categories, or incoming links from discussions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:41, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Created by an editor who was blocked two weeks later. Gonnym (talk) 14:39, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 08:36, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:28, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links from discussions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:41, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Has pages that it could be used on, but I'm in an opinion that if the creator of a navigation template didn't take the time to add it to articles, there is no reason to attempt to save it. Gonnym (talk) 14:40, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 August 11. Izno (talk) 23:10, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:29, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
No transclusions, documentation, categories, or incoming links from discussions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:40, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Unused and no indication for where to even use it. Side note, also fails MOS:DONTHIDE, which in a template is even worse. Gonnym (talk) 14:41, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 08:37, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 03:02, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as per nomination. DaBoss4344 (talk) 12:44, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 August 11. Izno (talk) 23:10, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:29, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
Navbox with no transclusions. We don't need a navbox for non-winners. {{Miss Mexico winners in the Big Four pageants}} already exists for the winners. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:38, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:36, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Pppery (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 07:08, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
- Template:Laggy category (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
No transclusions, documentation, categories, or incoming links from discussions. I posted a note on the talk page to ask why this template was created, but it has not been explained. Many categories lag for known reasons (e.g. T132467 and T157670, which apply throughout MediaWiki sites); it does not make sense to me to single out one or two. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:37, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Used. A ping might have helped, the use is pretty obvious, the template is useful where its relevant to remember that the category is laggy, to avoid going hunting for reasons why inclusion or, specifically, removal isn't happening. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 17:21, 24 July 2025 (UTC).
- I posted a note on your talk page, as required. Every category that derives its membership from a template or module is prone to lags in populating the category, due to the above Phabricator issues. I don't think we need a special notice for just a subset of these categories. Can you explain what specific categories or groups of categories this template should apply to? Maybe this template should be merged with {{Maintenance category}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:05, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Asking for a ping is not a valid request. This is the ping. Gonnym (talk) 14:45, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
- Gonnym, Jonesey95 left a message on the talk page (which he created in the same edit) - AS HE SAYS IN HIS NOMINATION - "I posted a note on the talk page to ask why this template was created, but it has not been explained." That is why I am saying a ping would have been be helpful then OBVIOUSLY not at the same time as he templated a regular.
- I can't believe that you BOTH misunderstood that comment. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 15:55, 28 July 2025 (UTC).
- Templates that you create, as well as talk pages for those templates, should be added to your watchlist by default. I don't know how you missed the addition of tags to the template page or my posting on the talk page. In any event, the new documentation does not answer the fundamental question of why the template exists. Every category that is populated by MediaWiki software or a template is subject to lags, due to known bugs that I linked to at the TFD page. Which pages, specifically, should be tagged with this template, and why those pages instead of others that are also subject to lags? – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:19, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Not everyone uses watchlists. Pages where it is a useful warning should be tagged. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 15:45, 9 August 2025 (UTC).
- Not everyone uses watchlists. Pages where it is a useful warning should be tagged. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 15:45, 9 August 2025 (UTC).
- Templates that you create, as well as talk pages for those templates, should be added to your watchlist by default. I don't know how you missed the addition of tags to the template page or my posting on the talk page. In any event, the new documentation does not answer the fundamental question of why the template exists. Every category that is populated by MediaWiki software or a template is subject to lags, due to known bugs that I linked to at the TFD page. Which pages, specifically, should be tagged with this template, and why those pages instead of others that are also subject to lags? – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:19, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. As Jonesey95 pointed out, every single category can have this issue. This should be noted in WP:CATEGORY (or any better page), but having this posted on every category is unhelpful. Having this posted on several is also unhelpful, as it seems there is a specific issue with them compared to others. Gonnym (talk) 14:48, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
- NO ONE IS POSTING IT ON EVERY CATEGORY. Why would you bring this straw man up? And it is not an identical issue for all categories, as you should know. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 15:55, 28 July 2025 (UTC).
- NO ONE IS POSTING IT ON EVERY CATEGORY. Why would you bring this straw man up? And it is not an identical issue for all categories, as you should know. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 15:55, 28 July 2025 (UTC).
- delete, it would be better to have a site-wide notice, instead of placing this template in a particular category. Frietjes (talk) 14:12, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:30, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- Template:Football in Papua (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Football in South Kalimantan (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Navbox with no transclusions or main article. Redundant to the more comprehensive {{Football clubs in Indonesia}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:32, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:36, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:32, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- Template:Popdi (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
No transclusions or incoming links from discussions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:31, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:36, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was draftify. ✗plicit 14:34, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links. This appears to be redundant to {{WikiProject Higher education}}. The /sandbox page should be used for testing. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:31, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. The test seems to have been concluded. If it hasn't, use either the /sandbox or /testcases. Gonnym (talk) 14:48, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 08:37, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
- Move/Draftify As the creator this has important development work and I'd like it to be dratified or moved to the correct place. (which I was unable to get good instructions on; that would work too but can I move it while the TfD is here?) Tduk (talk) 14:22, 29 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:33, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
Navbox with no transclusions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:29, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:33, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 03:03, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete under WP:CSDG7. – numbermaniac 07:12, 25 July 2025 (UTC) (non-admin closure)
- Template:New entry 2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Duplicate of Template:New entry. If a feature is wanted to have an option to change the image, then add it to the template. Don't create a fork. Gonnym (talk) 08:15, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I didn't want to break the use of the current one. It would take review of all its uses to adapt to the changes I made. What used be 1= is now 2=. I will userfy it for now since it is in limited use, unless there is an objection to that. This will give me time to figure out which uses need to be adapted. Stefen 𝕋owers among the rest! Gab • Gruntwerk 08:22, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Since I didn't get feedback on userfying, I just copied the code into my user space for use in 4 reports, which I had to correct (instead of getting to bed where I belong). Please go ahead and Delete. Stefen 𝕋owers among the rest! Gab • Gruntwerk 08:47, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. I created this template, in case my replies above didn't clarify this. Stefen 𝕋owers among the rest! Gab • Gruntwerk 21:00, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:37, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- Template:Infobox road/name/USA (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Infobox road/shield/Central America (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Infobox road/shield/PRK (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Infobox road/shieldmain/USA/CR (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Unused sub templates of Template:Infobox road (no usage found with insource search also). All probably replaced by Module:Infobox road and Module:Road data. Gonnym (talk) 08:11, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:34, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 03:04, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:39, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
This decade-specific template is only used on 1 article (and doesn't have its own category). I suggest that it could just be replaced with its parent, {{Canada-icehockey-defenceman-stub}}. – numbermaniac 07:20, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:32, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 03:04, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete but userfy if requested by the author. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 17:40, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
- Template:Avellino-Rocchetta Sant'Antonio railway line diagram (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Unused route map. Gonnym (talk) 15:34, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify or Userfy: obviously created in anticipation of a future article. Useddenim (talk) 18:21, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Obviously keep: obviously created in anticipation of a future article. if it would not exist as a template, no one would ever find it, when making the article, unless it's the template's creator themseves. Saippuakauppias ⇄ 01:35, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:10, 17 July 2025 (UTC) - Still unused, still for deletion. We don't create and keep around templates just in case we will one day need them. Create them for actual usage. Gonnym (talk) 08:13, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Then Userfy or Draftify: those are both appropriate. Useddenim (talk) 13:14, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- The user that created it didn't even comment, so userfying to their page is very inappropriate. I'm ok with sending this to Draftspace. Gonnym (talk) 08:01, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Then Userfy or Draftify: those are both appropriate. Useddenim (talk) 13:14, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:37, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Delete Here we are a month in, it's still unused, and the creator hasn't edited in over a month. Time for it to meet its fate. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:06, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:08, 2 August 2025 (UTC)
Unused color template. Gonnym (talk) 15:37, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep This is part of the colour system for elections. Removing it would potently cause mysterious errors in the future. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 12:28, 9 July 2025 (UTC).
- How can an unused template cause errors in the future? Either use it, or don't, but if it isn't used, it has no reason to be kept. Gonnym (talk) 08:19, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- How can an unused template cause errors in the future? Either use it, or don't, but if it isn't used, it has no reason to be kept. Gonnym (talk) 08:19, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:37, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 06:21, 24 July 2025 (UTC) - If the only thing that was possible to use this template on, with a single usage, on a single page, just to color a box orange then I'm still in favor for deletion. Political colors (and not "shading templates") must use Module:Political party which we worked hard to consolidate. Gonnym (talk) 08:04, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per Gonnym. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:51, 29 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 August 12. (non-admin closure) Techie3 (talk) 04:40, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Template:Toby_Fox (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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The result of the discussion was Keep * Pppery * it has begun... 05:16, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
Little point in having any navbox, let alone such a complex one, for a route that is proposed but is in no way currently being considered and is unlikely to be considered in the near future. 10mmsocket (talk) 07:14, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: It's consistent with other London Underground and Overground lines. Useddenim (talk) 18:41, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Keep: consistent with similar navboxes and no gain from deleting it as it is still informative. JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 14:12, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:16, 2 August 2025 (UTC)
Unused route template. Gonnym (talk) 14:25, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:24, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 03:05, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: now linked and in use. Useddenim (talk) 00:02, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 06:08, 24 July 2025 (UTC) - I feel that its inclusion in a list article is very inappropriate and won't be surprised if it is eventually removed from it. But until then I'm ok for keeping it and seeing what happens. Gonnym (talk) 08:06, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- delete, the placement inside a table in a list article isn't an appropriate place. Frietjes (talk) 19:27, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 17:40, 2 August 2025 (UTC)
- Template:Sinner (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Only one notable album. --woodensuperman 11:39, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - Five band members with articles. --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:55, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- That's not a reason to keep a navbox like this. The band members will already be well linked to each other. --woodensuperman 19:42, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- WP:NENAN, "A good, but not set-in-stone rule to follow is the "rule of five": are there presently at least five articles (not counting the primary article) on which your navbox will be used?" --Jax 0677 (talk) 12:47, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- We don't need navboxes to navigate between band members though, it's the releases that are relevant here. Band members will be well linked already. --woodensuperman 16:07, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Actually, this is not necessarily the case... --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:43, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- We don't need navboxes to navigate between band members though, it's the releases that are relevant here. Band members will be well linked already. --woodensuperman 16:07, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- WP:NENAN, "A good, but not set-in-stone rule to follow is the "rule of five": are there presently at least five articles (not counting the primary article) on which your navbox will be used?" --Jax 0677 (talk) 12:47, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- That's not a reason to keep a navbox like this. The band members will already be well linked to each other. --woodensuperman 19:42, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:02, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep there are 7 linked items in the navbox. Good enough for me. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 15:59, 28 July 2025 (UTC).
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The result of the discussion was Keep * Pppery * it has begun... 05:16, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
Single use template with poor documentation about what the groupings are The Banner talk 12:24, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: It's not any sort of poor documentation. What the groupings are, is - of course - written on the respective article page. And on every grouping's page. The templates contains links to the respective page: Every country / grouping name in the template is clickable! Here, more precise links than just Country will be introduced over time. Saippuakauppias ⇄ 15:15, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- I disagree. The Banner talk 21:18, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- To what you disagree, Sir? All that you have asked for is now provided:
- Used in various articles
- The explanation is there. If you are not following UNFCCC negotiations, then it will be difficult to understand from looking at the diagram only. I recommend you to check the above mentioned article on UNFCCC parties, as well as the pages of the coallitions (ALBA, LMDC, etc.).
- For any further info, please feel free to ask. If you want me to improve something, please provide constructive feedback, that is, not just two words.
- The diagram is widely used. I update it every few weeks, when changes occur.
- → Are you against the template, or agianst the diagram itself? If you're against the figure, you can also try to get the SVG removed from Commons, or remove it from the artcles. However, the Template provides the additional value over the figure of being clickable. So what is your problem with this? Do you prefer the figure not to be clickable? Then, this would simply be less userfriendly.
- Do you want more details written about the negotiations and the reason of the groups in the Doumentation page? This is not common practice. Check other Euler diagrams: e.g. Template:Supranational_African_Bodies, Template:Supranational_European_Bodies. I just used their Template as a template for creating the present one. There seems to be no issues. Saippuakauppias ⇄ 09:07, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- I have a problem with quality of the template and the limited number of uses. The Banner talk 11:27, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Allright. Please answer my questions, because I have a problem with the quality of your messages. – You send no more than 11, 2, 15 words. This is not constructive.
- --> Specify quality. What do you refer to?
- --> How many transclusions do you want?
- --> It's simply an improvement of the figure, because it makes the figure clickable. So What is your problem?
- Saippuakauppias ⇄ 14:49, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- The template is NOT widely used, just a few times. The template is excessively big. And despite everything: links to disambiguation pages. Somebody else has fixed most of them, but still one is left. The Banner talk 03:17, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Correct, I do not fix any links by hand. Somebody suggested to make this template. So i made it. Now, searching pertinent articles and §§ to link the Climate Change Strategy for all 190+ parties, that I leave for other people. The table needs to be updated, so that I can use this info in my Python script, which generates the code for the invisible hyperlink boxes linking to the respective page. Editing directly those boxes (what you call "somebody else was doing it") is good, because I can then extract that info, but it is dublicating the work, because I will use a lookup table to match countrynames in the SVG to the article links. Ok. Anyway that was quite technical. If there is "still one left", then do it yourself instead of complaining here! (WP:sofixit) Saippuakauppias ⇄ 01:20, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- The template is NOT widely used, just a few times. The template is excessively big. And despite everything: links to disambiguation pages. Somebody else has fixed most of them, but still one is left. The Banner talk 03:17, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Allright. Please answer my questions, because I have a problem with the quality of your messages. – You send no more than 11, 2, 15 words. This is not constructive.
- To what you disagree, Sir? All that you have asked for is now provided:
- Keep Provides an updateable way of keeping track of a complex situation in graphic format. Doubtless there is room for improvement, but WP:sofixit applies. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 12:39, 9 July 2025 (UTC).
- Thank you, please help improving, by telling me on the SVG's talk page, if you see anything! Would you prefer tags instead of names? Saippuakauppias ⇄ 23:08, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you, please help improving, by telling me on the SVG's talk page, if you see anything! Would you prefer tags instead of names? Saippuakauppias ⇄ 23:08, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Discussion closed. Template kept. Saippuakauppias ⇄ 01:20, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- That is not up to you to decide, we have admins for that. The Banner talk 01:25, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Saippuakauppias: Please do NOT remove the nomination-template before this discussion is officially closed. The Banner talk 01:14, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- @The Banner: The discussion was officially closed. You failed to answer my questions above. Other, similar templates (i.e. Template:Supranational Oceanian Bodies) have less transclusions. The discussion is to be officially closed. Saippuakauppias ⇄ 01:26, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- No, that is not how it works. We have admins to close these discussions and decide the fate of the templates brought up for discussion. It is not up to you to decide. The Banner talk 01:31, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Then, ... simply retract the Request. Take a deep breath and o to sleep. It is obvious that you ran out of arguments, that's why you did not answer the questions.
- Take an example from how the requester handled this one. – Even ONE transclusion is enough.
- GN8, Saippuakauppias ⇄ 01:55, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- You are wrong in that assumption. The Banner talk 14:57, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Why? I still don't think that this massive, sparingly-used template with links to disambiguation pages is a worthy addition to the encyclopedia. The Banner talk 02:03, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- No, that is not how it works. We have admins to close these discussions and decide the fate of the templates brought up for discussion. It is not up to you to decide. The Banner talk 01:31, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep I use this document with the country groupings for years as well as various organization and groups in their ad-hoc work as well as capacity buildings, i.e. UN Mayor Group for Children and Youth (https://www.unmgcy.org/), official youth constituency for children and Youth to the UNFCCC (YOUNGO: https://youngoclimate.org/), the Climate Action Network (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_Action_Network) and many more, including the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change itself.
- A more interactive template with proper links to the countries' and country groups' pages improves the work we're doing in international institutions. 2A00:1E:81C0:9301:58A7:903E:6711:E229 (talk) 08:35, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Do we need to transclude an image through template space? --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:50, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- It provides links! Check out these:
- Template:Supranational_Oceanian_Bodies
- Template:Supranational African Bodies
- Template:Supranational American bodies
- Template:Supranational Asian Bodies
- Template:Supranational Caribbean Organisations
- Template:Supranational European Bodies
- Template:Supranational Islamic Bodies
- Template:Supranational PostSoviet Bodies
- Saippuakauppias ⇄ 00:55, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- It provides links! Check out these:
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 06:04, 24 July 2025 (UTC)- KEEP This is a fantastic visual aid that has helped me, other professionals, and students to understand how the UNFCCC system works and the political interplay between countries. Please keep it. It is very difficult to get a good picture of the intricacies of the system and this is absolutely better than not having it. 2A00:23CC:B725:1401:D882:9C9B:9ED8:E3E7 (talk) 08:45, 29 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Pppery (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:04, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
- Template:Cite standard (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Effectively unused. Can be replaced with {{cite report}} in the mutilated handful of pages it's present on. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:48, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Template:Cite tech report. Proposed in this discussion six years ago, opposed with good reason at the time, created as a redirect, and never adopted by editors.
Replace with Citation Style 1 templates as appropriate.This template page was a redirect for a while, and then was turned into a wrapper with just one parameter set to an inflexible value after this discussion. That change does not appear to encouraged its adoption. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:26, 10 July 2025 (UTC) - I still believe the template itself is a good idea, because standards are often cited badly. I’m not sure the implementation is the best it can be. I also understand that apron has been very low. Shrug emoji — Christoph Päper 07:52, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- All this seems to do is inform future editors that the technical report being cited is a standard. Template:Cite ISO standard is a better model to follow for other standards bodies. --Northernhenge (talk) 21:51, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep and possibly Merge code from {{Cite ISO standard}}, and make {{Cite ISO standard}} a wrapper (since that's more specific, it can pass "standards body = ISO" for example). All the best: Rich Farmbrough 16:02, 28 July 2025 (UTC).
- This template has absolutely nothing to do with {{cite ISO standard}}. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:22, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- This template has absolutely nothing to do with {{cite ISO standard}}. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:22, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- This template is unused, serves zero purpose, and is WP:COSTLY. If a {{cite standard}} is desired for whatever reason, it is not this iteration of the template that will offer anything of value to anyone. It should not be this hard to delete a template that could nearly be G6'd as useless. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:27, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect seemed to work fine before. Delete and replace as a second option. Rjjiii (talk) 02:50, 29 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. It's unused, but the name might be useful for a different template in the future. Redirection blocks that possibility. Mackensen (talk) 13:37, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
- I think I'd prefer a delete here per others. A redirect would also be fine. I tend to agree that there's little enough reason for this template. Izno (talk) 23:13, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Left guide (talk) 01:27, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
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The TOC templates need to be deprecated, due to all of them not working properly in Vector 2022. We should not be using them for new work. 2600:1700:6180:6290:5455:F3AA:FC8D:D9B7 (talk) 01:50, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep unless they are doing harm in Vector 2022. Many people use other skins. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:16, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- keep, these are useful for other skins. Frietjes (talk) 19:28, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per above --Lenticel (talk) 08:52, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
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