🇮🇷 Iran Proxy | https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Anabel_Montesinos
Jump to content

Template:Did you know nominations/Anabel Montesinos

Add links
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
DYK toolbox

Anabel Montesinos

(
)
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 2158 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:02, 2 November 2025 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: The hook fact (that the win at that one competition caused her international star to rise) is not explicitly stated in any source. See e.g. this, which conveys that her victory caused her to receive a recording offer. She seems to have won numerous international competitions beforehand? I think we need another hook, unless I've missed something.

I am a little concerned, while we're here, about the non-independent sourcing. Most of the cited sources are either organisations she has been affiliated with, or which had reasons to promote her. We may have a WP:N fail here; let me know what you think, before I put it up for AFD. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:19, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:19, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing. Ruthlessly trimming:
ALT0a: ... that Anabel Montesinos won the Francisco Tárrega International Guitar Competition at age 17?
This person played at Carnegie Hall and the Rheingau Musik Festival, - that's not promotional speak but hard facts saying she is top. - I heard her and was impressed and told Dr. Blofeld who wrote the article, but there was no review - the festival ran 154 events last year, and the papers can't cover them all - and if there was one it would be paywalled. Just one example. What can we do? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:21, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
I added a review from Gramophone. ("If you already have most of the items in other recordings I urge you to listen to Montesinos – you may feel you are hearing them for the first time.") --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:52, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
  • Comment. I agree with AirshipJungleman29. In general the article relies too heavily on non-independent sources; many of which were likely written by Montesinos or her press agent or her employer. These are all published by people or parties who have a financial motive (ie selling tickets and recordings). I would say in its current state the article should be tagged for sourcing problems and the need for third party coverage. I don't think we can or should run this because the article currently fails WP:DYKCITE. Until those sources (ie content cited to a press release, theatre bio, and record label) are swapped out with independent secondary materials (ie independent newspapers, magazines, etc. with by lined authors) we shouldn't run this. Gerda that means physically removing most of the materials you've used. We've talked about this before. You really need to quit submitting articles built primarily from artist bios of this type. They aren't independent. It's ok to use them in a limited way per WP:ABOUTSELF, but they shouldn't make up the majority of materials used, and they shouldn't make up the bulk of citations per WP:BESTSOURCES and WP:DUE. I note that in doing a WP:BEFORE type search I found lots of independent media coverage (yes much of it is paywalled, but not all of it) so there really isn't a need to use any of these theatre bios. The coverage is there in German, Spanish, and English media sources using google news. Best.4meter4 (talk)
    I didn't write the article and I have no time to work on it, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:05, 1 December 2025 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: Apologies for not catching that. It would be good to critically look at source balance on any articles you nominate. The work of others is not necessarily DYK ready, and if it isn't ready that makes for work here at review. An article built like this isn't going to pass scrutiny and will require heavy editing. If you are willing to pitch in and fix that is one thing, but if time isn't on your side I wouldn't nominate articles in this state. Best.4meter4 (talk) 15:34, 1 December 2025 (UTC)
When I see an article 7 days after creation, about a subject I like to see mentioned, close to midnight, too tired for scrutiny, I nominate whatever condition, hoping it will be improved in the process. There's nothing to loose. It can still be improved, and I'm willing to help but don't see time until Saturday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:19, 1 December 2025 (UTC)
@Dr. Blofeld: Will you be able to address the sourcing concerns? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:25, 1 December 2025 (UTC)
I am sorry to have no time right now, 2 recent deaths articles and three reviews waiting, + prepare Christmas. My recommendation is to place the questioned refs under External links, and believe that there will still be enough good references to support the content. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:39, 1 December 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for the response Gerda, but I was asking Dr. Blofeld as he was the original article creator. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:44, 1 December 2025 (UTC)
... and I gave explanation and advice to Dr. Blofeld. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:19, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

If you can link me some urls of what sources you want added Narutolovehinata5 and 4meter4 I will see what I can do. I simply used sources that turned up in a search.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:46, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

Back home, I combined refs, made one external, dropped one that had nothing new, and trimmed the prose. Please check again. There is more information (husband, duo) in the ref that's now #1. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:24, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Anabel_Montesinos&oldid=1325909064"