Template:Did you know nominations/Wanda Perdelwitz
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Wanda Perdelwitz
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Perdelwitz in 2019
... that Wanda Perdelwitz (pictured) played a police woman whose long hair was cut off during an attack?
- Source: Die Welt
Created by Thriley (talk), Gerda Arendt (talk), and Rigg (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 191 past nominations.
Thriley (talk) 18:02, 15 October 2025 (UTC).
Article meets all DYK criteria. Article new enough, substantially long, has well-structured prose, well-sourced, presentable, and maintains a neutral tone. Hook is interesting, short, and supported by inline citation. Image is free and used in article. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:40, 26 October 2025 (UTC)- Reviewing this one for promotion, and I don't think a hook about a particular role being played is inherently interesting or unusual -- actors play many different kinds of roles, so this falls into the "did you know this person did her job?" category for me. The circumstances of her death, meanwhile, are attention-catching since dooring is not usually thought of as a serious risk by drivers. I don't think the following would be too sensationalistic, but let me know what you think:
- ALT1: ... that actress Wanda Perdelwitz (pictured) died from injuries after being doored while riding a bike?
- ALT2: ... that as a child, actress Wanda Perdelwitz (pictured) often watched her mother perform from backstage at the Deutsches Theater?
- @Thriley, Gerda Arendt, Rigg, and Jeromi Mikhael: Note that there is no source for the claim that the car was in a place it was not permitted to be, and the claim is not validated in other citations. If that's mentioned in another source, can someone add a footnote there? Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:10, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- I'd go for the original hook. It's not about a role but her real hair was cut, and it shows how far she went for a role. It also explains why she didn't look that when she died, and it's the only pic we have of her. To focus on her death or on her early childhood says nothing about her, as far as I can see. "Actress" can mean so many things that it's almost meaningless. Perhaps ALT0 can be worded differently. - Where the car parked, was of no consequence, - the tragedy was that the car's door was opened into the (narrow) bike path. There are photos in sources such as #7, Treskow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:11, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- What you described (her cutting her hair specifically for the role) is slightly more interesting the hook itself, but it still strikes me as pretty normal for an actor to change his or her hairstyle for a role. Any other ideas? P.S. The apparent original research in the article about the driver being in an impermissible area needs to be sourced or removed. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:23, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- I made the hook to go with the image showing her striking hair. It doesn't really work without it. Thriley (talk) 02:20, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Thriley: As I noted above, the original hook is not worded in a way that draws that connection. It is also highly likely that if this hook runs it will do so without a photo, so it must be interesting/engaging to the reader without an image. I don't think the approved hook is interesting and I'm unwilling to promote it as is, but I don't see any interest in new hooks. I will remove my question tag so that Jeromi Mikhael's approval of ALT0 will stand and another promoter may approve if they wish. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:55, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Are you aware that this nomination was approved? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:57, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: Of course I was aware, as my comments above clearly indicate. I raised this conversation because I am worried that the current approved hook will not actually make it onto the homepage and I thought some alternatives would help. The other participants are uninterested in alternatives so the hook may stand and another promoter can choose what to do. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:01, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Are you aware that this nomination was approved? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:57, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Thriley: As I noted above, the original hook is not worded in a way that draws that connection. It is also highly likely that if this hook runs it will do so without a photo, so it must be interesting/engaging to the reader without an image. I don't think the approved hook is interesting and I'm unwilling to promote it as is, but I don't see any interest in new hooks. I will remove my question tag so that Jeromi Mikhael's approval of ALT0 will stand and another promoter may approve if they wish. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:55, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- If you look at the article history, you see a lot of movement in what we say about the accident, especially about the helmet (in some headlines). We can drop the half sentence about the stopping place, it's not relevant, - the door into the bike path (which is just marked by a line) is. Triley? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:09, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- I like ALT2. Really don't want to focus on her death. Thriley (talk) 00:09, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- I would like ALT2 if she followed her mother's path to stage theatre, but she was popular (really) for popular tv series, especially a long-running one. Perhaps name GroĆstadtrevier in an ALT0a. Really don't want to focus on her death. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:03, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- I like ALT2. Really don't want to focus on her death. Thriley (talk) 00:09, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- I made the hook to go with the image showing her striking hair. It doesn't really work without it. Thriley (talk) 02:20, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- What you described (her cutting her hair specifically for the role) is slightly more interesting the hook itself, but it still strikes me as pretty normal for an actor to change his or her hairstyle for a role. Any other ideas? P.S. The apparent original research in the article about the driver being in an impermissible area needs to be sourced or removed. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:23, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- I'd go for the original hook. It's not about a role but her real hair was cut, and it shows how far she went for a role. It also explains why she didn't look that when she died, and it's the only pic we have of her. To focus on her death or on her early childhood says nothing about her, as far as I can see. "Actress" can mean so many things that it's almost meaningless. Perhaps ALT0 can be worded differently. - Where the car parked, was of no consequence, - the tragedy was that the car's door was opened into the (narrow) bike path. There are photos in sources such as #7, Treskow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:11, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
ALT3 ... that Wanda Perdelwitz (pictured) played a police sergeant on the TV show GroĆstadtrevier who was described as "impetuous, courageous" and "a little girly"?ALT4 ... that in 2017, Wanda Perdelwitz (pictured) who played a police sergeant on the TV show GroĆstadtrevier, received an award naming her "Coolste Kommissarin"?
Thriley (talk) 20:42, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
on hold while issues are resolved; reviewers needed for ALTs 1ā4. (I would also submit that ALT0 is likely a DYKFICTION fail.) theleekycauldron (talk ā¢ she/her) 03:20, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- I think you might be the one to word better in an ALT0a that it wasn't fiction but her real hair. My language isn't sufficient but I feel that its a stronger fact than the latest ALTs, + explaining the image. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:52, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- Others have already discussed the article here, so I will be focusing on the hooks only. ALT3 and ALT4 are both rejected: quote hooks have tended to underperform on DYK lately, and I cannot see how either would break that pattern. The original hook is also rejected on DYKFICTION grounds.
- Both the nominator and main article contributor have stated their preference for ALT2. I would rather not go with ALT1, but the issue here is that ALT1 will almost certainly attract more readers than ALT2. If the main contributors would be fine sacrificing readership if it means not highlighting her tragic death, then I can approve ALT2 only.
- ALT1 and ALT2 are cited inline and have been verified in their respective sources, but per the above discussion, ALT2 is considered the primary hook and ALT1 is merely a backup. Narutolovehinata5 (talk Ā· contributions) 12:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- People reading the main page had already a chance to learn that she died. None of her achievements, no image. This would be a chance for DYK: to say what she stood for in life. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:48, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Dclemens1971: Just to clarify, have the OR issues been addressed yet? Narutolovehinata5 (talk Ā· contributions) 12:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC)