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Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin 2025 Issue 18

Here is a quick overview of highlights from the Wikimedia Foundation since our last issue on September 13. Please help translate.

Upcoming and current events and conversations
Let's Talk continues

  • CEE Meeting: Wikimedia CEE Meeting 2025 will be held in Thessaloniki, Greece, September 26-28.
  • Learning Clinic: The next Let's Connect Learning Clinic will talk about "Mastering the Capacity Exchange (CapX) Tool" and will take place on September 30 at 13:00 UTC.
  • Big Fat Brussels Meeting: The tenth in-person gathering of Wikimedians enthusiastic in free knowledge advocacy, Big Fat Brussels Meeting, will take place on October 3-4.
  • Wikimedia Research Showcase: "Celebrating 13 Years: Wikidata’s Role in Learning and Culture" will be the featured theme for the next research showcase taking place on October 15 at 16:30 UTC.

Annual Goals Progress on Infrastructure
See also newsletters: Wikimedia Apps · Growth · Research · Web · Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia · Tech News · Language and Internationalization · other newsletters on MediaWiki.org

Wikifunctions now available on 123 Wiktionaries

Annual Goals Progress on Volunteer Support
See also blogs: Global Advocacy blog · Global Advocacy Newsletter · Policy blog · WikiLearn News · list of movement events

Annual Goals Progress on Effectiveness
See also: Progress on the annual plan

Board and Board committee updates
See Wikimedia Foundation Board noticeboard · Affiliations Committee Newsletter

Foundation statements

Highlights from other Movement curated newsletters & news
See also: Diff blog · Goings-on · Planet Wikimedia · Signpost (en) · Kurier (de) · Actualités du Wiktionnaire (fr) · Regards sur l’actualité de la Wikimedia (fr) · Wikimag (fr) · Education · GLAM · The Wikipedia Library · Milestones · Wikidata · Central and Eastern Europe · other newsletters

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The Signpost: 2 October 2025

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Upcoming expiry of your patroller right

Hi, this is an automated reminder as part of Global reminder bot to let you know that your permission "patroller" (New page reviewers) will expire on 00:00, 4 October 2025 (UTC). For most rights, you will need to renew at WP:PERM, unless you have been told otherwise when your right was approved. To opt out of user right expiry notifications, add yourself to m:Global reminder bot/Exclusion. Leaderbot (talk) 19:42, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

Page mover granted

Hello, Veko. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect and move subpages when moving the parent page(s).

Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving a redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when suppressredirect is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.

Useful links:

If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 06:53, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

Tech News: 2025-41

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Weekly highlight

  • Paste Check is a new Edit Check feature to help avoid and fight copyright violations. When editors paste text into an article, Paste Check prompts them to confirm the origin and licensing of the content. Starting Wednesday, 8 October, 22 wikis will test Paste Check. Paste Check will help new volunteers understand and follow the policies and guidelines necessary to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia projects.

Updates for editors

  • Mobile devices will receive mobile articles directly on the standard domain (like en.wikipedia.org), instead of via a redirect to an "m" domain (like en.m.wikipedia.org). This change improves performance. This week it will be enabled on Wikipedias. The existing mobile URLs and the "Desktop view" opt-out remain available. Learn more. [1]
  • New date filters, creationdate: and lasteditdate:, are now available in the wiki search engine. This allows users to filter search results by a page's first or last revision date. The filters support comparison operators (e.g. >2024) and relative dates (e.g. today-1d), making it easier to find recently updated content or pages within specific age ranges. [2]
  • Wikifunctions now supports rich text in embedded calls across the 150 wikis where it's enabled. To showcase this, the team created a Latin declination table that Wiktionary editors can use to automatically generate noun forms, producing clear, formatted results — see an example output. If you need any help or have any feedback, please contact the Wikifunctions Team. [3]
  • An edit link will now appear inside the categories box on article pages for logged in users, which will directly launch the VisualEditor category dialog. [4]
  • Recurrent item View all 34 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, there was a problem downloading pdf files last week and that has been resolved. [5]

Updates for technical contributors

  • The field rev_sha1 in the revision database table is being removed in favor of content_sha1 in the content database table. See the announcement for more information.
  • The Reader Experience team will roll out Dark Mode user interface on all Wikimedia sites on October 29, 2025. All anonymous users of Wikimedia sites will have the option to activate a color scheme that features light-colored text on a dark background. This is designed to provide a more comfortable reading experience, especially in low-light situations. Template authors and technical contributors are encouraged to learn how to make pages ready for Dark mode and address any compatibility issues found in templates in their wiki before the enablement. Please contact the Web team for questions or any support on this talk page before the enablement. [6]
  • Starting on Monday, October 6, API endpoints under the rest.php path will be rerouted through a new internal API Gateway. Individual wikis will be updated based on the standard release groups, with total traffic increased over time. This change is expected to be non-breaking and non-disruptive. If any issues are observed, please file a Phabricator ticket to the Service Ops team board. [7]
  • Recurrent item Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki

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Suranaree Black Cat F.C.

Editor veko, I'm very curious about your decision at Talk:Suranaree Black Cat F.C.#Requested move 31 August 2025. As there was no opposition and 3 editors in support of the page moves, I wonder how you determined there was no consensus? P.I. Ellsworth , ed. – welcome! – 21:09, 25 September 2025 (UTC)

Thank you very much, editor veko, for this edit! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. – welcome! – 12:09, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
You're welcome! On a second look, I made a mistake on determining consensus, which I'm still getting the hang of (I'm getting better at it though), and feedback like this really helps. Happy editing! veko. (user | talk | contribs) he/him 12:16, 26 September 2025 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Veko. Thank you for your work on Lehigh Valley Academy. Another editor, Mariamnei, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Nice work! I would recommend expanding this article when you have a chance! Have a great day!

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|Mariamnei}}. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Mariamnei (talk) 12:16, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Veko. Thank you for your work on Lehigh Valley Academy. Another editor, Mariamnei, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Also, it's an orphan so try to add a link from any other page on English Wikipedia to this page to remove orphan status.

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|Mariamnei}}. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Mariamnei (talk) 12:17, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

Recent move closure

Please make sure you write a closing statement if you are closing moves WP:THREEOUTCOMES https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_companies_involved_in_the_Gaza_war#Requested_move_23_September_2025 Cinaroot (talk) 06:17, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2025

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2025).

Administrator changes

removed

CheckUser changes

removed Vanamonde93

Arbitration

  • After a motion, arbitration enforcement page protections no longer need to be logged in the AELOG. A bot now automatically posts protections at WP:AELOG/P. To facilitate this bot, protection summaries must include a link to the relevant CT page (e.g. [[WP:CT/BLP]]), and you will receive talk page reminders if you forget to specify the contentious topic but otherwise indicate it is an AE action.
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New page reviewer granted

Hi Veko, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the new page reviewer user right to your account. This means you now have access to the page curation tools and can start patrolling pages from the new pages feed. If you asked for this at requests for permissions, please check back there to see if your access is time-limited or if there are other comments.

This is a good time to re-acquaint yourself with the guidance at Wikipedia:New pages patrol. Before you get started, please take the time to:

You can find a list of other useful links and tools for patrollers at Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Resources. If you are ever unsure what to do, ask your fellow patrollers or just leave the page for someone else to review – you're not alone! signed, Rosguill talk 15:59, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

RM close of Tylenol (brand)

Hi veko :] Just posting this to note that there have been some issues with this close raised on the talk page. I see that it says you're busy and the first message should likely have been posted here anyway, so posting this here now out of courtesy. ―"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (hihi) 18:22, 30 September 2025 (UTC)

Ah, thanks very much for notifying me! I'll take a look at the comments made, and either reverse the closure or add a rationale. I'm new to determining consensus so these little notes and reminders are of great help. (As you see, I'm busy give me some time to do so) Many thanks and cheers :) veko. (user | talk | contribs) he/him 18:40, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
After a little more digging, I am concerned that this close was done without enough thought being put into it. Your edit history shows that it was done in a flurry of other tool-assisted closes, and occurred only 2 minutes after your previous edit. While this is fine for RMs where the outcome is obvious, this was not one of those cases.
Given that there was opposition to the move request and that !votes were still being made on the 30th (the day of the closure) I think it's best that the close be vacated and the discussion relisted. I appreciate that you're busy (I am too), but this needed a rationale upon the close being made or else discussion should have been allowed to continue via relisting.
I am prepared to move forward with a Move review in light of all this. ―"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (hihi) 18:56, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
Two things @GhostOfDanGurney:
First, I'm not going to have time to write an in-depth rationale, so instead of holding this discussion back, I'm going to revert my closure and instead go with a procedural relist.
Second, tt seems as I do them without thought and in haste as I look at the previous days RMs at WP:RM and track them until the time is ready then, from there, with me having a day or two of thought put into it, along with still keeping up with the discussion, I close them when I have time if someone has not found the time to do so already. Good day :) veko. (user | talk | contribs) he/him 19:12, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
Are you okay with the changes that I made? veko. (user | talk | contribs) he/him 19:25, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
I was okay with it, yes. Thanks for explaining your process. I hope I didn't come across as trying to intimidate you, as a support !voter suggested. ―"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (hihi) 18:10, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
You didn't! No worries, I appreciate you for bringing up your concerns on my talk page. veko. (user | talk | contribs) he/him 18:21, 2 October 2025 (UTC)

Tech News: 2025-42

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Weekly highlight

  • Last week, improvements to account security and two-factor authentication (2FA) features were enabled across all wikis. These changes include user interface improvements for Special:AccountSecurity, the support of multiple 2FA methods via authenticator apps and portable security keys (previously users could only enable one method), and a new Recovery Codes module which facilitates fewer account lockouts due to lost two-factor apps and devices. As part of the Account Security project, work is continuing through the rest of 2025 on further user experience improvements, and support for passkeys as an alternate second factor.

Updates for editors

  • Another part of the Account security project is making 2FA generally available to all users. Along with editors with advanced privileges, such as administrators and bureaucrats, 40% of editors now have access to 2FA. You can check if you have access at Special:AccountSecurity. Instructions for activation are on the linked page. The plan is to continue increasing availability if it is determined that the user support capabilities are able to support global usage. [8]
  • This week, users at wikis where talk page Usability Improvements are already available by default (everywhere except the 12 wikis listed in T379264) will gain the ability to Thank a comment directly from the talk page it appears on. Before this change, Thanking could only be done by visiting the revision history of the talk page. You can learn more about this change. [9]
  • Users who have not verified their email address will soon be receiving monthly Notification reminders to do so. This is because users who have verified their email can more easily recover their account. These reminders will not be sent if the user is inactive or removes the unverified email from their account. [10][11]
  • Recurrent item View all 21 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, a fix was made for an occasional error with saving translated paragraphs in the Content Translation tool, and the related error messages are now easier to see. [12]

Updates for technical contributors

  • The Unsupported Tools Working Group has chosen Video2Commons as the first tool for its pilot cycle. The group will explore ways to improve and sustain the tool over the coming months. Learn more on Meta.
  • Recurrent item Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki

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Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin 2025 Issue 19

Here is a quick overview of highlights from the Wikimedia Foundation since our last issue on September 26. Please help translate.

Upcoming and current events and conversations
Let's Talk continues


Annual Goals Progress on Infrastructure
See also newsletters: Wikimedia Apps · Growth · Product Safety and Integrity · Readers · Research · Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia · Tech News · Language and Internationalization · other newsletters on MediaWiki.org

Dark Mode will soon be available on all Wikimedia sites.
  • Mobile Editing: Insights on mobile web editing on Wikipedia in 2025 are now available. This report highlights that ~95% of IP mobile users editing via wikitext open the editor but make no changes at all, a vast untapped potential. It also pinpoints where contributors most often drop off.
  • Dark Mode: Dark Mode user interface will be rolled out on all Wikimedia sites on October 29. All anonymous users of Wikimedia sites will have the option to activate a color scheme that features light-colored text on a dark background. This is designed to provide a more comfortable reading experience, especially in low-light situations.
  • Community wishlist extension: The new Community Wishlist extension has been released. This will allow users to add tags to their wishes to better categorise them, and (in a future iteration) to filter them by status, tags and focus areas. It will also be possible to support individual wishes again, as requested by the community in many instances.
  • Paste Check: 22 Wikis are now testing a new Edit Check feature, Paste Check, to help avoid and fight copyright violations. When editors paste text into an article, Paste Check prompts them to confirm the origin and licensing of the content.
  • Tone Check: The Wikimedia Foundation is working on a new check for newcomers: Tone check. Using a prediction model, this check will encourage editors to improve the tone of their edits.
  • Search Suggestions: Search Suggestions was deployed on English Wikipedia. Upon clicking an empty search bar, logged-out users see suggestions of articles for further reading. The feature is available on both desktop and mobile.
  • Unsupported Tools Working Group: A new Unsupported Tools Working Group has been formed to help prioritize and review requests for support of unmaintained extensions, gadgets, bots, and tools. The group has chosen Video2Commons as the first tool for its pilot cycle. The group will explore ways to improve and sustain the tool over the coming months.
  • Tech News: Read updates from Tech News week 40 and 41 including about Sub-referencing – a new feature to re-use references with different details.
  • Wikimedia Research Showcase: Don't miss the next Wikimedia Research Showcase, "Celebrating 13 Years: Wikidata's Role in Learning and Culture" taking place on October 15 at 16:30 UTC.

Annual Goals Progress on Volunteer Support
See also blogs: Global Advocacy blog · Global Advocacy Newsletter · Policy blog · WikiLearn News · list of movement events

Foundation statements

Other Movement curated newsletters & news
See also: Diff blog · Goings-on · Planet Wikimedia · Signpost (en) · Kurier (de) · Actualités du Wiktionnaire (fr) · Regards sur l’actualité de la Wikimedia (fr) · Wikimag (fr) · Education · GLAM · The Wikipedia Library · Milestones · Wikidata · Central and Eastern Europe · other newsletters

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MediaWiki message delivery 14:50, 14 October 2025 (UTC)

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Jacques-Cartier Park

Hi, thank you for acting as closer in this discussion.

Are you also in favour of following my recommendation and retargeting Jacques-Cartier Park to Jacques-Cartier National Park? 162 etc. (talk) 01:18, 26 September 2025 (UTC)

If you'd like to redirect it, I'd say be bold and do it. Only one person opposed it, and they gave their suggestion on it. It's a weak consensus with lack of discussion, and you should be bold and just choose a redirect that you think fits best. However, if you'd like you might want to consider opening a new talk page section on it? I'm unsure myself, I'm new to the RM venue. Many thanks, and happy editing! veko. (user | talk | contribs) he/him 12:15, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
You're the closer. It's up to you to interpret consensus and make the appropriate changes. See WP:RMCI.
I'll note that the status quo doesn't work - Jacques-Cartier Park should not be a redirect to Jacques-Cartier Park (Gatineau), seeing as we just determined that it is not the primary topic. 162 etc. (talk) 17:04, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
Bump. The Jacques-Cartier Park redirect has not been addressed yet; how should we proceed? 162 etc. (talk) 18:56, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

Dana Evans

Please reopen the discussion... it was not a technical request, and I wish to oppose it. Andrewa (talk) 01:31, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

It wasn't? I had to do a technical move to do so, but either way, I'll reopen it now. veko. (user | talk | contribs) he/him 01:32, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
 Done veko. (user | talk | contribs) he/him 01:45, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

September 2025 NPP backlog drive – Points award

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
This award is given in recognition to Veko for accumulating at least 25 points the September 2025 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions played a part in the 19,000+ articles reviewed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! Utopes (talk / cont) 03:38, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

Question for administrator

I don't personally know an admin that's good with fixing attribution so I'm just going to use this; if you do, feel free to ping them below. iPhone 17 Pro is attributed to me, however I did not create that article. Guessing something messed up when I originally drafted it as part of the NPP process. Unsure if this goes in WP:RFHM, if it does, please tell me. Many thanks, veko. (user | talk | contribs) he/him 14:12, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

It's not a history merge as it does not look like this was a copy-and-paste move but just a new creation on top of the speedy, so technically you did create it. KylieTastic (talk) 14:31, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
Oh, is there any way to fix this, feels wrong to have it under me, or is it what it is? veko. (user | talk | contribs) he/him 14:33, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
I had the same issue years ago and was told by an admin it would not be fixed, and not to worry about it. However, technically it can be fixed with a full delete and undelete of all but the first 3 revisions. I'm just not sure what the policy about that type of action is. So I'll leave the question open for another admin. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:37, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
I've removed the first three edits from the page history. That should deal with the problem. Those edits qualified for speedy deletion under criterion R2 at the time, but the speedy deletion tag which you placed was removed by an editor who created the article there. I see no problem with implementing the deletion which should have happened back then. JBW (talk) 23:29, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

Draft talk:David Geier

David Geier is now an article (previously a draft), but Talk:David Geier currently redirects to Draft talk:David Geier. It looks like something went wrong with the move process. Can you have a look please, and see if you can fix it. Mitch Ames (talk) 05:30, 11 October 2025 (UTC)

Fixed, that's on me, I forgot to swap and redirect the talk page. Should be all good now. veko. (user | talk | contribs) he/him 15:48, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
Thanks. Mitch Ames (talk) 02:48, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

Tech News: 2025-43

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • To optimize how user data is stored in our databases, the saved preferences of users who haven't logged in for over five years and have fewer than 100 edits will be cleared. When those users return, default settings will apply. [13]
  • Recurrent item View all 20 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, there was a broken link from the GlobalContributions interface message to the XTools GlobalContributions page which has now been fixed. [14]

Updates for technical contributors

  • The work to reroute all traffic to API endpoints under the rest.php route through a common API gateway is now complete. If any issues are observed, please file a phabricator ticket to the Service Ops team board.
  • Edits to Wikidata references or qualifiers will now be shown in RecentChanges and Watchlist entries on other wikis less often, reducing unnecessary notifications. This will reduce the overall quantity of 'noisy' entries. Wikidata's own pages remain unchanged. [15]
  • Recurrent item Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki

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Post move cleanup

Hi Veko, just thought I'd remind you about WP:POSTMOVE after Requested move 5 October 2025 in reference to nav templates, sidebars, and edit notice. Regards, CNC (talk) 11:21, 13 October 2025 (UTC)

I try my best to clean-up post move but some seems to slip my mind. I'll keep a sharper look for things like you mentioned in the future. veko. (user | talk | contribs) he/him 16:00, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
That's ok it's easy to forget these things as do I, hence the reminder. CNC (talk) 16:33, 13 October 2025 (UTC)

Question from GlitchedKitKat (17:40, 13 October 2025)

hi what if i just put hi at the bottom of a page, what will it do --GlitchedKitKat (talk) 17:40, 13 October 2025 (UTC)

Hi @GlitchedKitKat! If you add the word 'hi', or any other text to the bottom of a page, it will simply appear as text on that page. However, I’d recommend to avoid doing that on regular pages. If you’d like to see how editing works, your sandbox is a great place to start. It’s made exactly for that purpose, so feel free to test and learn there. veko. (user | talk | contribs) he/him 18:05, 13 October 2025 (UTC)

Question from Ephrem Misganaw on User:Ephrem Misganaw (18:54, 13 October 2025)

How can i develop vision ans mission for financial institutions? --Ephrem Misganaw (talk) 18:54, 13 October 2025 (UTC)

I'm confused on what you mean by this @Ephrem Misganaw..? Mind rephrasing this with the necessary context of what you're referring to. Thanks, veko. (user | talk | contribs) he/him 14:21, 14 October 2025 (UTC)

Romance (love)/Romance

Hi, you moved this page as part of a round-robin recently: do you know what was at this title before? It seems like a rather unlikely redirect but I don't want to nominate it for deletion if it was a long-term title, to avoid breaking links. Rusalkii (talk) 19:25, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

eye I have read the above message. I will reply when I have a moment. veko. (user | talk | contribs) [he/him] 23:13, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
This seems to be a mistake from the move process, I'm looking into it to see what caused it and what this page originally was. veko. (user | talk | contribs) [he/him] 14:56, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
Yeah, this was the result of the script messing up being of an error I made during the move. For context, this was me performing a move to process a WP:RMTR request (Special:Permalink/1317121192#O8X). To perform it, I put this into MovePlus:
Romance → Romance (disambiguation)
Romance (love) → Romance
However, the page Romance/Romance exists, and therefore, Talk:Romance/Romance exists, because of the slash, and the script of course cannot tell the difference between this not being a sub-page (I'm a new page mover so this is something new I've learned and I'll of course keep this in mind for further moves, just not something that I'd usually think about).
Due something messing up, at some point in the process, I made Romance (a disambiguation at the time) go to Romance (love) instead of Romance (disambiguation), which made the disambiguation misplaced. Since I had to do a round-robin move to conduct this, and therefore I have page mover rights, I moved all subpages. It took Talk:Romance/Romance (however not Romance/Romance, unsure why) as a sub-page and moved it to Draft talk:Move/Romance (love)/Romance then to mainspace as part of roundrobin. I noticed this instantly and moved Romance (love) to Romance (disambiguation), moving Talk:Romance (love)/Romance to Romance (disambiguation)/Romance.
However, prior to fixing this mistake, the previous round-robin move was already finished finished and was cleaned up. At this time, Romance (love) was still the misplaced disambiguation. Since Romance/Romance never was touched, only the talk page for a reason unknown to me, Talk:Romance (love)/Romance therefore existed while Romance (love)/Romance did not. The script would then sync the subject page. Since the technical request determined Romance to be the primary topic, Romance (love) would redirect to Romance as an unnecessary disambiguation redirect. It thought Romance (love)/Romance to be a sub-page of Romance, aka Romance/Romance, which isn't the case since that's a separate article. To sync it, it would redirect to Romance/Romance, the article, thinking it was a sub-page of the now current Romance.
That's all, understanding this was tough but I think I got it all right. All pages that have been made in error, including this page, have been marked under G6. Feel free to delete them @Rusalkii. I've also fixed all incorrect redirects that were made as a result of this. Sorry about this, my brain hurts from all this investigating, and I'll use this as a experience to try to prevent this in the future.
Thanks, veko. (user | talk | contribs) [he/him] 16:10, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
Oh dear, thanks for clearing that one up! Rusalkii (talk) 16:59, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

Question from GeorgeWLemieux (00:59, 18 October 2025)

I want to add Jin "Bar News" Barnes photo... Should I be concerned about Copyrights? --GeorgeWLemieux (talk) 00:59, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

Tech News: 2025-44

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • The Wikipedia iOS app has launched an A/B/C test of improvements made to the tabbed browsing feature for select regions and languages. The test, named “More dynamic tabs”, explores new tab experiences and includes “Did you know” and “Because you read” article recommendations. You can read more on the project page.
  • Autoconfirmed users on small and medium wikis with the CampaignEvents extension can now use Event Registration without the Event Organizer right. This feature lets organizers enable registration, manage participants, and lets users register with one click instead of signing event pages.
  • Recurrent item View all 31 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the issue of flashing colors when holding or pressing the arrow keys under the dark mode settings in Vector 2022 has been fixed. [16]

Updates for technical contributors

  • The CampaignEvents extension will be deployed to all remaining wikis during the week of 17 November 2025. The extension currently includes three features: Event Registration, Collaboration List, and Invitation List. For this rollout, Invitation List will not be enabled on Wikifunctions and MediaWiki unless requested by those communities. Visit the deployment page to learn more.
  • The SwaggerUI-based REST sandbox experience is now live on all wiki projects. The sandbox can be accessed through the Special:RestSandbox page. Please report any issues to the MediaWiki Interfaces team board, or join the discussion on the project launch page. [17]
  • Transform endpoints with a trailing slash path in the MediaWiki REST API are now marked as deprecated. They will remain functional during this time, but removal is expected by the end of January 2026. All API users currently calling them are encouraged to transition to the non-trailing slash versions. Both endpoint variations can be found and tested using the REST Sandbox. See the MediaWiki REST API Deprecation page for more detailed information about the API deprecation policies and procedures.
  • A dedicated changelog now exists for the MediaWiki REST API. The changelog provides an overview of these changes, making it easier for developers to keep track of improvements and iterations. Announcements will also continue to flow through the standard communication channels, including Tech News and email distribution lists, but can now be more easily referenced from a central location. If you have feedback about the style, structure, or content of this changelog, please join the discussion.
  • Administrators can delete the tracking category which was previously added by the JsonConfig extension, as it is no longer used. See the categories linked from Q130635582. It is OK if there are still pages listed in the category as that is just a caching issue, and they will be automatically cleared out the next time each page is edited. [18]
  • Recurrent item Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki

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Question from Elias Amule (Bebeto Amose) (13:16, 19 October 2025)

Hi, how do i make or promote my soccer bio profile to get exposed --Elias Amule (Bebeto Amose) (talk) 13:16, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

Question from Wellesley Marie (20:01, 19 October 2025)

Can I create a new category with the drop-down arrows. For instance, to Career, Filmography, Bibliography, may I add Instagram? --Wellesley Marie (talk) 20:01, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

Question from Edward Anselm, MD (16:48, 20 October 2025)

Hello, I am a retired physician/researcher. My main reason for joining is to create a Wiki for my publications and positions. There is some controversy in my field, tobacco treatment and harm reduction, and I want a space to document my positions. How do I get started? Ed --Edward Anselm, MD (talk) 16:48, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

@Edward Anselm, MD: You need to be very careful about doing that. At the very least, you would need to follow Wikipedia's guideline on conflict of interest, as you would be writing on a subject in which you have a close personal involvement. In fact what you say suggests that there would be more to it than that, as you seem to be saying that you wish to use Wikipedia to promote your personal views, but Wikipedia policy does not allow promotion of any kind. A Wikipedia article should be written from a neutral point of view, and must not express or support any person's views. If that is indeed what you wish to do, then Wikipedia is not the right platform for you. JBW (talk) 17:12, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for the clarification. I will not proceed with this. All the best, Ed Edward Anselm, MD (talk) 20:02, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin 2025 Issue 20

Here is a quick overview of highlights from the Wikimedia Foundation since our last issue on October 11. Please help translate.

Upcoming and current events and conversations
Let's Talk continues


Annual Goals Progress on Infrastructure
See also newsletters: Wikimedia Apps · Growth · Product Safety and Integrity · Readers · Research · Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia · Tech News · Language and Internationalization · other newsletters on MediaWiki.org

The naming contest for the new Wikimedia project, known until now as Abstract Wikipedia, is ongoing.
  • Making it easier to say thanks: Users on most wikis will now have the ability to thank a comment directly from the talk page it appears on. Before this change, thanking could only be done by visiting the revision history of the talk page.
  • Account security: Improvements to account security and two-factor authentication (2FA) features were enabled across all wikis. Another part of the project is making 2FA generally available to all users. Along with editors with advanced privileges, such as administrators and bureaucrats, 40% of editors now have access to 2FA. You can check if you have access at Special:AccountSecurity.
  • Abstract Wikipedia: The naming contest for the new Wikimedia project, known until now as Abstract Wikipedia, is ongoing. Voting is now open until November 3.
  • Tech News: Read updates from Tech News week 42 and 43 including the community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
  • Wikimedia apps: The Wikipedia iOS App launched an A/B/C test of improvements to the Tabbed browsing feature into Beta for select regions & languages. Called “More dynamic tabs”, the experiment adds user-requested improvements and introduces article recommendations within the tabs overview, showing “Did you know” or “Because you read” content depending on how many tabs are open.
  • CampaignEvents extension: Campaignevents extension will be deployed to all remaining wikis during the week of 17 November 2025. The extension currently includes three features: Event Registration, Collaboration List, and Invitation List. For this rollout, Invitation List will not be enabled on Wikifunctions and MediaWiki unless requested by those communities.
  • Event registration tool: Autoconfirmed users on small and medium wikis with the extension can now use Event Registration without the Event Organizer right. This feature lets organizers enable registration, manage participants, and lets users register with one click instead of signing event pages.


Annual Goals Progress on Volunteer Support
See also blogs: Global Advocacy blog · Global Advocacy Newsletter · Policy blog · WikiLearn News · list of movement events

  • Digital safety: Explore how you can help make Wikimedia safer by taking our new self-paced course, Safety for Young Wikimedians.
  • Wikimedia Core Curriculum: The Wikimedia Foundation has developed seven online video learning modules covering the core English Wikipedia policies. You are invited to use, adapt, and translate the course.
  • Advocacy: The Wikimedia Foundation has signed onto a statement that calls on governments and UN bodies to keep discussions about the future of internet governance accessible to non-government actors like industry and civil society. This statement is part of ongoing joint advocacy with affiliates to influence UN discussions about the future of internet governance such as the Global Digital Compact campaign and WSIS+20 deliberations.
  • GLAM: The Wikimedia Foundation and several affiliates have signed onto the Open Heritage Statement, which supports galleries, libraries, archives, and museums (GLAM institutions) to have the legal rights they need to collect, preserve, and provide access to cultural heritage.


Foundation statements


Other Movement curated newsletters & news
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Question from Karsten Vermeulen (17:54, 22 October 2025)

Hi Veko,

I would like to add some information to a page relating to a video game. Some of the information comes from the game's manual. What is the policy on adding content that is considered copyright? Should I write this in my own words or can I copy some of it verbatim? --Karsten Vermeulen (talk) 17:54, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

Guide to temporary accounts

Hello, Veko. This message is being sent to remind you of significant upcoming changes regarding logged-out editing.

Starting 4 November, logged-out editors will no longer have their IP address publicly displayed. Instead, they will have a temporary account (TA) associated with their edits. Users with some extended rights like administrators and CheckUsers, as well as users with the temporary account IP viewer (TAIV) user right will still be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range.

How do temporary accounts work?

Editing from a temporary account
  • When a logged-out user completes an edit or a logged action for the first time, a cookie will be set in this user's browser and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created for them. This account's name will follow the pattern: ~2025-12345-67 (a tilde, year of creation, a number split into units of 5).
  • All subsequent actions by the temporary account user will be attributed to this username. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser.
  • A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. Users with the temporary account IP viewer (TAIV) user right will be able to see the underlying IP addresses.
  • As a measure against vandalism, there are two limitations on the creation of temporary accounts:
    • There has to be a minimum of 10 minutes between subsequent temporary account creations from the same IP (or /64 range in case of IPv6).
    • There can be a maximum of 6 temporary accounts created from an IP (or /64 range) within a period of 24 hours.

Temporary account IP viewer user right

How to enable IP Reveal

Impact for administrators

  • It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the autoblock option.
  • It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
  • Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this (see a video about IPContributions in a gallery below).

Rules about IP information disclosure

  • Publicizing an IP address gained through TAIV access is generally not allowed (e.g. ~2025-12345-67 previously edited as 192.0.2.1 or ~2025-12345-67's IP address is 192.0.2.1).
  • Publicly linking a TA to another TA is allowed if "reasonably believed to be necessary". (e.g. ~2025-12345-67 and ~2025-12345-68 are likely the same person, so I am counting their reverts together toward 3RR, but not Hey ~2025-12345-68, you did some good editing as ~2025-12345-67)
  • See Wikipedia:Temporary account IP viewer § What can and can't be said for more detailed guidelines.

Useful tools for patrollers

  • It is possible to view if a user has opted-in to view temporary account IPs via the User Info card, available in Preferences → Appearance → Advanced options → Tick Enable the user info card
    • This feature also makes it possible for anyone to see the approximate count of temporary accounts active on the same IP address range.
  • Special:IPContributions allows viewing all edits and temporary accounts connected to a specific IP address or IP range.
  • Similarly, Special:GlobalContributions supports global search for a given temporary account's activity.
  • The auto-reveal feature (see video below) allows users with the right permissions to automatically reveal all IP addresses for a limited time window.

Videos

  • How to use Special:IPContributions
  • How automatic IP reveal works
  • How to use IP Info
  • How to use User Info

Further information and discussion

Most of this message was written by Mz7 (source). Thanks, 🎃 SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 02:47, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

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